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Old 12-30-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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See that it what a good solid middle-class family like yourself does to protect your children as much as you can.

Most big liberal American cities are little more than baby-factories living in outdated homes with no safety prevention measures.

After the first time, your decided to do what you could to eliminate the risk as possible by putting a hotel-style bar on the door because you obviously do what ever it takes and you have lots of common sense and logical thinking skills.

However, many of these poor parents who ended up having so many children because they have no logic or common sense have no logical thinking skills and live in the moment so they don't worry about measures to eliminate the risk.

I am sure that if 100 children for a poor and 100 child from a middle-class or rich household made a safety mistake that the children in the middle-class or rich household would in many more instances do more to eliminate the risk.
So in your extensive studies of the rates of baby proofing among different socioeconomic groups, surely you must have come across some links that show things like the rates of compliance among poor people and other relevant facts and can share ones attesting to that?

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Old 12-30-2017, 06:18 PM
 
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The lack of compassion that the mother with multiple kids who had a 3 year old of playing with the ovens on the stove is stunning.

Her lack of buying stove safety locks for a couple of dollars is stunning! For a couple of dollars it could have all been prevented but I am sure the mother if she is living in a century-old tenement doesn't have very much logic to begin with.

Maybe these parents should have compassion and not have children until they are prepared to raise them correctly. There is just so much horrible parenting that goes on in these liberal cities it is beyond stunning.

Once again, for a couple of dollars she could have walked to the store and bought stove safety locks but I guess that was not a priority of her's. I wonder how many of these poor parents will do a safety-evaluation to childproof their home as much as possible after this terrible tragic event due to another bad inner-city parent.
Well, I guess this tragedy showed her! How nice of you to create this thread, OP. Happy holidays.
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Old 12-30-2017, 06:23 PM
 
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New York City seems to have many issues that arise from it's third-world sized families living in small apartments in walk-up tenement apartments.
It's New York City. It's ALWAYS had issues with immigrant families crammed into crappy apartments.
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Old 12-30-2017, 06:23 PM
 
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Massive fire that killed 12 started by child playing with stove | abc7.com

Maybe people unless it is a penthouse or large luxury units, should raise their children in a large single family home and not an overcrowded apartment.

New York City seems to have many issues that arise from it's third-world sized families living in small apartments in walk-up tenement apartments.

Bronx fire started by child playing with stove, official says - CNN

https://www.google.com/maps/place/23...!4d-73.8831984

It seems as though these massive families living in crowded apartments with buildings with hundreds of people with electrical appliances and stoves everywhere is a recipe for issues.

I guess unlike DeBlasio's NY, people in Republican Wichita can raise their children in huge homes that aren't crammed with things that could dangerous for less than 1,000 a month.

Why have kids if they can't watch them 24 hours, 7 days a week?

Why have a big family if they are living in a century-year old walk up overcrowded apartment building festered with disease?

I wonder how many siblings the parents who were living in a Bronx tenement were preoccupied with?

Seems like the NYC model of crowded tenement apartments crowded with families that can't watch their children that are breeding grounds of disease isn't really working very well.

Seems like you ought to mind your GD business and stop projecting your obviously racial and other hatred onto New York City.


Aside from Obama, New York seems to be the other focus of "interest" for some of you that do not live here but likely secretly wished you did.


As for poverty, children and accidents I wouldn't go there if I were some of you in "fly over states". Otherwise I'll start digging up news coverage of children left in cars that roasted to death, children forgotten in cars by their mothers, grandmothers and died, children dying of ingesting illicit drugs, children getting their hands on guns and killing others, children being crushed to death while climbing airline ticket machines, children found in backseats of cars while their mothers/parents are strung out on meth/heroin, and so it goes.....
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Old 12-30-2017, 06:25 PM
 
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oP, so you actually get out much? Serious question.
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Old 12-30-2017, 06:31 PM
 
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oP, so you actually get out much? Serious question.
I do but I have no interest in the Northeast. I travel quite a bit but throughout the West, I have zero interest in the eastern half of country except for Florida which has lots of amazing very fiscally conservative areas with high quality of life filled with nice seniors.

But I go to California very frequently. I have always wondered why Los Angeles is such a big family city if they are going to raise their families in crammed, crappy old-homes and old-apartments.

Is there any particular reason why poor people love raising families in crowded apartments in big cities?

I know in flyover parts of America that I resided in or visited it seems to be mainly single people just starting out who live in apartments, while families live in houses.
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Old 12-30-2017, 06:34 PM
 
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So basically, your experience with certain parts of the US/world is so limited and your mind is so small that you cannot fathom why everyone doesn't covet a McMansion in a Midwestern US suburb.

Yeah, you've already made that painfully obvious. It's a big world out there, lovescrowds, don't be so frightened of it.....
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Old 12-30-2017, 06:36 PM
 
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The lack of compassion that the mother with multiple kids who had a 3 year old of playing with the ovens on the stove is stunning.

Her lack of buying stove safety locks for a couple of dollars is stunning! For a couple of dollars it could have all been prevented but I am sure the mother if she is living in a century-old tenement doesn't have very much logic to begin with.

Maybe these parents should have compassion and not have children until they are prepared to raise them correctly. There is just so much horrible parenting that goes on in these liberal cities it is beyond stunning.

Once again, for a couple of dollars she could have walked to the store and bought stove safety locks but I guess that was not a priority of her's. I wonder how many of these poor parents will do a safety-evaluation to childproof their home as much as possible after this terrible tragic event due to another bad inner-city parent.
I stand by my initial statement.
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Old 12-30-2017, 06:37 PM
 
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I do but I have no interest in the Northeast. I travel quite a bit but throughout the West, I have zero interest in the eastern half of country except for Florida which has lots of amazing very fiscally conservative areas with high quality of life filled with nice seniors.

But I go to California very frequently. I have always wondered why Los Angeles is such a big family city if they are going to raise their families in crammed, crappy old-homes and old-apartments.

Is there any particular reason why poor people love raising families in crowded apartments in big cities?

I know in flyover parts of America that I resided in or visited it seems to be mainly single people just starting out who live in apartments, while families live in houses.

You do know that not everyone can afford to own a home? Sheesh.
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Old 12-30-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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You do know that not everyone can afford to own a home? Sheesh.
She also doesn't realize that not everyone wants to live in the suburbs of Nebraska.
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