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Revisiting the controversial Moynihan Report Jun 21, 2013
Nothing about it is complicated or controversial. If there is no benefit to getting married, no one will(or should) get married.
If you subsidize something you get more of it. If you penalize something you get less of it.
As Hegel said, "When we look at the world rationally, the world looks rationally back."
As much as you may disagree with them, people are actually behaving rationally. Thus complaining about something is a waste of time, you would have to change the system, to change the outcome.
And the truth is, no one is going to change the system in the kind of way necessary to make any real changes. As I pointed-out, the rate of out-of-wedlock birth rates in much of Europe is far higher than in America. In some European countries, the out-of-wedlock birth rates are nearly as high as the African-American out-of-wedlock birth rates.
Those are largely homogeneous white countries, like Iceland. That is the future, everywhere.
It is the system itself which is the poison. Can you not see? But what system are we really talking about?
Last edited by Redshadowz; 01-01-2018 at 01:49 PM..
Why did you get all defensive on a post I made in response to whogo's misinformation??
While every conservative isn't a white supremacist, many sympathize with causes and agendas created by white supremacists. These people are primarily known as sympathizers. For example, these people can be observed right here on CD making up lies about IQs using conclusions proven to be non-scientific. Anybody that supports the primary causes of white supremacy are sympathizers whether they like the label or not...
In your opinion maybe they are. You dont get to decide who is a sympathizer any more than I do or anyone else.
So you are declining to compare credentials then? good idea to backpedal on your part as I am a statistical outlier on the top end of the conservative side, perhaps you are the same on the liberal side?
Neither did white women. It's not an issue relegated to blacks only. For far too long, men have perceived women as their property, to do as they see fit. Hell, to this day, elite and powerful families will still sell their daughters out just so they can join families, or companies.......
Not the same though. There was a particular anger towards black women during the days of Jim Crow because they could no longer be owned by one particular white man. It was not limited to the south either. White women were busy fighting for the right to vote, something that black women couldn’t even focus on at that time. The safety of black women and that of their daughters was always at risk. Rape was a form of terrorism inflicted on black families during that time.
Yes, all women have suffered at the hands of men but this was TERRORISM. So although African marriage traditions and values were lost, it was very important for men to stay in the homes for the protection of the women and children. Once that ended, marriage reverted back to its broken state and today reflects the familial situations generally found throughout African-descended cultures in the Americas which underwent slavery. There are certain striking similarities among those cultures.
Last edited by ReineDeCoeur; 01-01-2018 at 03:29 PM..
Not the same though. There was a particular anger towards black women during the days of Jim Crow because they could no longer be owned by one particular white man. It was not limited to the south either. White women were busy fighting for the right to vote, something that black women couldn’t even focus on at that time. The safety of black women and that of their daughters was always at risk. Rape was a form of terrorism inflicted on black families during that time.
Yes, all women have suffered at the hands of men but this was TERRORISM. So although African marriage traditions and values were lost, it was very important for men to stay in the homes for the protection of the women and children. Once that ended, marriage reverted back to its broken state and today reflects the familial situations generally found throughout African-descended cultures in the Americas which underwent slavery. There are certain striking similarities among those cultures.
What exactly were "African marriage traditions and values" to begin with?
What's the situation with the "African marriage traditions and values" on the African continent may I ask?
Why did you get all defensive on a post I made in response to whogo's misinformation??
While every conservative isn't a white supremacist, many sympathize with causes and agendas created by white supremacists. These people are primarily known as sympathizers. For example, these people can be observed right here on CD making up lies about IQs using conclusions proven to be non-scientific. Anybody that supports the primary causes of white supremacy are sympathizers whether they like the label or not...
yep, sort of like my dad used to say... if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's probably a duck
What exactly were "African marriage traditions and values" to begin with?
What's the situation with the "African marriage traditions and values" on the African continent may I ask?
Look it up for yourself, it's not that hard to find, most slaves in the US came from West Africa so if you are interested, google it
Look it up for yourself, it's not that hard to find, most slaves in the US came from West Africa so if you are interested, google it
Well I can of course.
Here is just an example -
"West and Central Africa have some of the world’s highest rates of child marriage - three in four girls in Niger, and more than half in Mali, are married by the time they turn 18 - according to the United Nations children’s agency (UNICEF).
And the number of child brides in the region is set to soar to 12 million in 2030, from around eight million today, UNICEF data shows, amid booming population growth across the continent.
For while the legal age of marriage for girls in many countries is 15 or 16, they may be wed at a younger age under Sharia or customary law in religious and traditional weddings, which are more common than civil marriages across the region.'
Well I can of course.
Here is just an example -
"West and Central Africa have some of the world’s highest rates of child marriage - three in four girls in Niger, and more than half in Mali, are married by the time they turn 18 - according to the United Nations children’s agency (UNICEF).
And the number of child brides in the region is set to soar to 12 million in 2030, from around eight million today, UNICEF data shows, amid booming population growth across the continent.
For while the legal age of marriage for girls in many countries is 15 or 16, they may be wed at a younger age under Sharia or customary law in religious and traditional weddings, which are more common than civil marriages across the region.' https://www.reuters.com/article/us-w...-idUSKBN18Q001
But I thought may be ReineDeCeur can tell something different about the "African marriage traditions and value"?
Sort of like Great Britain's age of consent laws which they took with them to the Colonies huh?
"A 1576 law making it a felony to "unlawfully and carnally know and abuse any woman child under the age of 10 years" was generally interpreted as creating more severe punishments when girls were under 10 years old while retaining the lesser punishment for acts with 10- and 11-year-old girls. Jurist Sir Matthew Hale argued that the age of consent applied to 10- and 11-year-old girls, but most of England's North American colonies adopted the younger age. A small group of Italian and German states that introduced an age of consent in the 16th century also employed 12 years." Children and Youth in History | Age of Consent Laws
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You dont get to decide who is a sympathizer any more than I do or anyone else. 
