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Old 02-19-2018, 06:52 PM
 
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False equivalency of the year. The magnitude of this Russian propaganda war on US democracy is unprecedented and appalling. Almost unbelievable in its scale. Russia has declared an all-out cyber war on US democracy and we have a president who denies it instead of protecting us.

Please read what Thomas Freidman has to say about it. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/o...etType=opinion
It's not unprecedented. Multiple countries pull this stuff on each other. "All out cyber war". LOL

To note, Obama said it never happened. Also, cheating is cheating. You cant condemn others for what you refuse to do. Condemn cheating.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cruh2p_Wh_4
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:53 PM
 
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He has not denied it and the cyberwar was ongoing throughout the Obama years. This is not new and it has been widely known about and openly discussed for years now.

Why didn't Obama take this problem on? It certainly was not because he was not aware of it.
But Obama, Obama, Obama...

Just knock it off already. It's time to move ahead and get to the bottom of who financed this war, why, and how to stop it. Anyone who disagrees with that is flat-out un-American.
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:53 PM
 
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Not according to released information. Do you have others that say it was more or is that just your "facts"?
Might I suggest you actually read the indictment. Know how I know you didn't?

For example the Internet Research Agency that was listed had a 1.25 million operating budget PER MONTH. Thats in the indictment.
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:54 PM
 
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Thats because when he attempted to McConnell shot him down and threatened that if he attempted it he would accuse Obama of trying to rig the election.

And Obama DID do some things, including expelling people and seizing Russian properties-the Trump has repeatedly tried to return.
And he also went on to accuse Trump of "whining" and other things when complaints of the election being rigged were launched. It's also been admitted that Obama feared doing much of anything because "he didn't want to seem like he was putting his thumb on the scale".

So, which was it? Did Obama just let it go on for fear of be accused of tilting the election (figuring Hillary would win anyway) or did he actively do something to stop it?
Can't have it both ways.
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:55 PM
 
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Kdog kinda said it well, but lets add a few things.

Hillary had the support of Russia? Wow! who knew! Cause the recent indictments made it pretty plain that the Russians weren't supporting her AT ALL.
She didn't need the Russians. She had most the (D)'s working for her.

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Additionally. We had the vote-Hillary lost. That is done. No votes are known to have been changed illegally.
Nor here.

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Now...the voters may have changed their minds based upon Russian influence, and Russia probably influenced enough that Clinton would have otherwise won. And that makes ZERO difference to who is president. Its Trump. So lets talk about him rather then someone irrelevant like Clinton. OK?
Trump is president because people refused to hold previous cheater accountable. I condemn you because I do not want that to happen again but I see it happening.
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:55 PM
 
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Not according to released information. Do you have others that say it was more or is that just your "facts"?
Oh, another expert who hasn't read the indictment.

And it was HUNDREDS of trolls they employed. That ought to really torque you panties.
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:56 PM
 
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Might I suggest you actually read the indictment. Know how I know you didn't?

For example the Internet Research Agency that was listed had a 1.25 million operating budget PER MONTH. Thats in the indictment.
And they found how much was spent on actual advertising? Hmmmmm?
Just because someone has a budget doesn't mean that's what gets spent (unless one is the U.S. government).
C'mon, put up the links to actual information of what was actually SPENT.
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:57 PM
 
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Oh, another expert who hasn't read the indictment.

And it was HUNDREDS of trolls they employed. That ought to really torque you panties.
PUT UP THE AMOUNT THEY ACTUALLY PAID OUT if you can. Until then it's figures pulled from your ... Another Hillary Obamaphile who can spout but not prove...
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:59 PM
 
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And they found how much was spent on actual advertising? Hmmmmm?
Just because someone has a budget doesn't mean that's what gets spent (unless one is the U.S. government).
C'mon, put up the links to actual information of what was actually SPENT.
Really? So...they had a budget of 1.25 million per month, and even got a bonus on top of that...and you think it wasnt spent?

Oh you are a rare find. LOL. With 100's of employees?
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Old 02-19-2018, 07:01 PM
 
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Thats because when he attempted to McConnell shot him down and threatened that if he attempted it he would accuse Obama of trying to rig the election.

And Obama DID do some things, including expelling people and seizing Russian properties-the Trump has repeatedly tried to return.
What an outrageous lie. Have you no shame? It appears not.
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