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Old 02-21-2018, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Unpopular opinion here, but yes, I do think porn warps people's minds and gives them an unrealistic view of life and others around them. Since about 90% of American males are (sadly) hooked on internet porn, that law will never pass.
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Old 02-21-2018, 01:42 PM
 
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That's because guns AREN'T the problem. Time to remind everyone, again, that the FACT is that as the gun ownership rate increased by 50%, the gun homicide rate DECREASED by 50%, and the nonfatal violent gun crimes rate DECREASED by 76%.

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So by your logic, Canada's gun homicides should be skyrocketing.

Correlation does not imply causation.
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Interesting data from 1993, when crime all over the US began a long and steady decline.


Quick question, what is the increase/decrease in the number of mass shootings since 1993? That is a number that would shed a lot more clarity on the recent mass shootings in the US.

Here you go:



Source: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._1994-2017.jpg
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:26 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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They say porn ruins lives. I don't know if it ruins lives or not, but it's ruined a couple of my keyboards.
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:30 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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So all those mass shooting deaths were with legally purchased AR-15's that could have been prevented?
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Old 02-21-2018, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Exactly. They are nothing but bought and paid for stooges of the gun lobby. All they care about is selling weapons to everyone, and damn the bloodshed that results.

We live in a nation where there are more places you can legally own mass-murder guns than there are places you can legally smoke a joint, and that is just beyond stupid.

Yes, and if everything you say about them were 100% true, how much worse would Democrats be since they can't seem to make a better case to the voters?
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Old 02-22-2018, 06:01 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I'm gong to post this stuff again
Don't bother; it's bogus and deliberately misleading. Of course, an infinitesimally small amount of gun owners commit crimes; most of the guns used in gun crimes are illegally owned guns (e.g., by felons). Think Chicago, Baltimore, Camden, Compton, etc.

What we DO know for a FACT:

As the gun ownership rate has increased by 50%, the gun homicide rate DECREASED by 50%, and the nonfatal violent gun crimes rate DECREASED by 76%.

Info in this post in another thread:

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Old 02-22-2018, 06:10 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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This is sarcasm, right?
No, it's true. Lefties ignore facts, and choose to prefer to think evolution doesn't exist, which is why they force the denial of the basic evolutionary process of survival of the fittest by providing artificial financial support via means-tested social welfare programs.

The predictable result...

The poor are currently given financial incentives (rewards, if you will) to overbreed in the form of more generous public assistance benefits. Think very carefully about the results of those policies...

48% of all US births are paid by Medicaid (source: Medicaid). In a country that only has a 13.5% poverty rate (source: CIA World Factbook). The US Census Bureau has determined that, consistently, women on public assistance, as a group, have a birth rate 3 times higher than those not on public assistance. I can post links to the Census Bureau's analysis publications if anyone wishes.

Anyone who understands compounded population growth projection will understand that this is a recipe for disaster. It's mathematically unsustainable. Period.

I'll give an example of the future consequences using the following formula (compounded population growth projection) and values, given the rate ratios we already know (non-poor : poor = 1 : 3), after a time period of 50 years (roughly, the time span of two generations), and using a small sample size for the sake of making an easier comparison.

The formula is:

present value x (e)^kt = future value

where e equals the constant 2.71828..., k equals the rate of increase (expressed as a decimal, e.g. 5% would be 0.05), and t is the number of years (or other unit, as long as it is the same as k) over which the growth is to be measured.

Given: 100 births/year. 52 non-poor. 48 poor.
k for the non-poor = 1% = 0.01
k for the poor = 3% = 0.03

Non-poor population after 50 years: 85.73
Poor population after 50 years: 215.12

They began at:
Non-poor: 52%
Poor: 48%

And after 50 years of population growth given the rate ratios we already know, that results in:
Non-poor: 28.5%
Poor: 71.5%

The poor/low-income are WAY overbreeding, encouraged and enabled to do so by all the freebie public assistance benefits they get. Do you recognize the problem for society that presents? What's the plan to PAY for that?

The percentage of the US population that cannot support themselves and their dependents will increase exponentially, while those paying taxes will be increasingly unable to pay enough to support them all. It's completely mathematically unsustainable, and the US's society is already beginning to feel the effects as society in this country deteriorates and the average US lifespan continues to decrease.
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Old 02-22-2018, 06:11 AM
 
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Then please explain the lack of mass shootings in Australia only AFTER they banned assault weapons?
Sure: knife attacks, arson. Killers kill. It's not the tool used, it's the person committing the murders.
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Old 02-22-2018, 06:15 AM
 
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So by your logic, Canada's gun homicides should be skyrocketing.
That's not what I said.

What I said is that as the US gun ownership rate increased by 50%, the gun homicide rate has DECREASED by 50% and the nonfatal violent gun crimes rate has DECREASED by 76%.

The quite obvious conclusion = increased gun ownership DOES NOT result in higher gun crime rates.

If guns were to blame, we'd expect to see a commensurate increase in gun crime rates as the gun ownership rate increased. That hasn't happened.
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