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Old 04-21-2018, 09:43 AM
 
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According to Trump's supporters, the fact that he is a cheat and a liar was "baked into the cake." It's very easy to extend that to extortion, racketeering, intimidating witnesses, etc. It's all baked into the cake and they wouldn't change a thing.
Sounds like another gay bakery issue for the moral court with an all Muslim jury to decide.
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:45 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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No it wasn't funny. Words matter and Trump deserves every criticism leveled at him since that day. I hope throw him in jail and throw away the key.
And you don't understand what the word treason means.
Treason is betraying your own country; assisting your enemies against your own country; which is exactly the behaviour Trump demonstrated and why he refuses to criticise Putin.
Indeed. What happened to that last round of sanctions that Niki Haley promised? Trump just couldn't bring himself to do it.

He stood onstage and asked Russia to obtain and leak emails. He was called out right then and there for it but just continued to double down.

Rudy said early on that Russia had ALL of Hillary's emails.
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:53 AM
 
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So you know more than our intelligence agencies? Interesting position to take.

The US has become a nation of dullards and rubes. Belief has become de facto truth- if you believe it, it must be true. If the government really wanted to turn all tyrannical, now would be as good a time as any, because with the complete lack of ability in vetting objective reality in America, there's really no reason the people would question anything. At least, not enough to matter. As for Russia, it's made America its b**** and the people here are like Oliver asking for more gruel.
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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So if they conspired to commit a past crime together, attorney-client privilege FOR THE CLIENT is null and void?

Is it null and void for everything? Or just that particular crime?
Think of Michael Cohen this way


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNMQqh1ovlM
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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The federal investigators have said, repeatedly, that Trump is not the target. It's TRUMP and his supporters who keep insisting that Trump is the target.

Now I think that he is guilty of very poor judgement in choosing associates. But that's not a crime in itself.
You don't surround yourself completely with criminals if you aren't either, 1. A criminal yourself, or 2. A total moron. While the latter option means he may not be guilty personally, that's hardly a ringing endorsement of leadership. Do Trump supporters really want a leader who can't read people at all? Isn't that kind of important when negotiating on behalf of America's global interests? Beyond that, though, Trump acts guilty, which suggests that he is actively complicit.
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Old 04-21-2018, 10:00 AM
 
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He was also joking and it was funny as hell Hitlary committed treason by ignoring laws on keeping classified information secret....she should be in jail.
Prove it then. If you claim it, you must have information not even multiple Republican investigations had. Why aren't you sharing that information with the proper authorities? Why are you protecting Hillary?
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Old 04-21-2018, 10:03 AM
 
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This has been covered endlessly. Poor losers trying to cover their incompetence.

Probably so. He was corrupt from way back.


Let's argue all this is true. Even if so, no candidate should have lost to Trump. The only reason they did was the fact that Hillary was the only candidate worse than Trump.
You say you're not a Trump supporter and yet make every single one of their factually untrue, dumb arguments in full defense of him. Why is that, exactly?
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Old 04-21-2018, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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Hitlary betrayed this country by selling for personal gain our uranium and giving our secrets out to anyone that wants them. Nothing Trump said or did affected whether or not The Russians had Hitlary's emails, they had them and anyone that wanted them had them as well.

Words do't mean crap if they don't affect any action. Trump never assisted our enemies but Hitlary has.
Trump invited Russian diplomats into the Oval office - would allow only Russian photographers in - did not even tell the American press it happened and shared classified info.
We had to find out about it from the Russian press!

Same thing has happened numerous times since. How do you feel about your President keeping meetings with Russians secret from you that you only get to know about if the Russians choose to share it?
How do feel about Trump lying and making up a false story about Don Jr meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower?

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Old 04-21-2018, 11:01 AM
 
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You say you're not a Trump supporter and yet make every single one of their factually untrue, dumb arguments in full defense of him. Why is that, exactly?
There is nothing untrue in what I said.
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Old 04-21-2018, 11:30 AM
 
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Trump invited Russian diplomats into the Oval office - would allow only Russian photographers in - did not even tell the American press it happened and shared classified info.
We had to find out about it from the Russian press!

Same thing has happened numerous times since. How do you feel about your President keeping meetings with Russians secret from you that you only get to know about if the Russians choose to share it?
How do feel about Trump lying and making up a false story about Don Jr meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower?
And if I remember the timeline correctly--after that meeting--there was another death of a likely leak that gave into to Steele in building his dossier
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