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Thank for taking the poll, but please note, this is not about how you would like it to end, but what you think, for all you know, will be the likely result (even if you don't like it). The poll would not accomplish the purpose otherwise.
Also would like your prediction of how long it will last before the conclusion.
After today's bombshell, I think it is pretty much over with....
The Federal Judge Ellis chewed Muller up and spit him out.....
Every time Trump wins, America wins......
Other. I have not yet seen anything that says to me Trump is guilty of collusion, but it seems pretty clear Manafort and others are. I think Trump will probably pull a obstruction charge, but im not sure where it will go in the end. But a LOT of people around him I think will go to prison.
Manafort might get delaye a bit if he gets lucky and the judge says Mueller has to hand the case off to the local to prosecute. But really most of these folks are going to prison.
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Originally Posted by Grumpy ol' Man
After today's bombshell, I think it is pretty much over with....
The Federal Judge Ellis chewed Muller up and spit him out.....
Every time Trump wins, America wins......
LOL. what nonsense. Worst case there is Mueller hands the case off to the local federal prosecutor, and its 100% clear from the evidence that he has Manafort cold. Im amazed at how you folks cheer on the idea this criminal could get away with it. Party before country or law eh?
People who have had cases before this judge have indicated that this is normal from him though, and they dont think anything surprising will occur. But you keep on hoping there. lol.
I don't mean and don't want to hijack my own thread, but can't resist whenever the word "law" is used against Trump: what about the immigration law? (Disclaim: I did not vote for Trump or Clinton)
greywar is right to a point. i think trump walks away with no charges, though the left will still push the russian collusion narrative to their detriment.
as for manafort and others, they may be convicted on minor crimes, and have to pay fines, and possibly serve a short term in prison at worst.
Other. I have not yet seen anything that says to me Trump is guilty of collusion, but it seems pretty clear Manafort and others are. I think Trump will probably pull a obstruction charge, but im not sure where it will go in the end. But a LOT of people around him I think will go to prison.
Manafort might get delaye a bit if he gets lucky and the judge says Mueller has to hand the case off to the local to prosecute. But really most of these folks are going to prison.
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LOL. what nonsense. Worst case there is Mueller hands the case off to the local federal prosecutor, and its 100% clear from the evidence that he has Manafort cold. Im amazed at how you folks cheer on the idea this criminal could get away with it. Party before country or law eh?
People who have had cases before this judge have indicated that this is normal from him though, and they dont think anything surprising will occur. But you keep on hoping there. lol.
You really need to pay attention, not just spout off what your wishes might be. The Manafort case is OVER...! As in OVER...! With Mueller soon to follow.
Stay close to your radio... the fun is just beginning...
Thank you Donald for saving America, even though he protests too much Mr. Grey loves you to, and enjoys watching you MAGA...
Thanks grey...
Other. I have not yet seen anything that says to me Trump is guilty of collusion, but it seems pretty clear Manafort and others are. I think Trump will probably pull a obstruction charge, but im not sure where it will go in the end. But a LOT of people around him I think will go to prison.
Manafort might get delaye a bit if he gets lucky and the judge says Mueller has to hand the case off to the local to prosecute. But really most of these folks are going to prison.
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LOL. what nonsense. Worst case there is Mueller hands the case off to the local federal prosecutor, and its 100% clear from the evidence that he has Manafort cold. Im amazed at how you folks cheer on the idea this criminal could get away with it. Party before country or law eh?
People who have had cases before this judge have indicated that this is normal from him though, and they dont think anything surprising will occur. But you keep on hoping there. lol.
Funny you laugh at others.....tell us, is collusion a crime? I mean...you say it is...
Ultimately I don't think obstruction leads to Trump as there will be enough people to take the fall in between. I don't believe everyone else in the Campaign or in his business dealings has the same plausible deniability.
Now Financial crimes might be a different story. Not enough info there yet to determine anything.
I think ultimately someone is going to get a pardon over Obstruction and or Financial crimes (besides Cohen and maybe Manafort) and there will be another or more to fall over the next 2 years. There is something with the financial side at minimum that will be found with all the information Cohen and Manafort have. This will lead to the Trump Organization and family. President? Someone will take the fall before that happens.
The Comey thing will be just like Clinton Emails. Stupid but not prosecuted even though it probably was against the law.
Now other members of the campaign colluding with Russia and Wiki leaks, I think the case is still open there.
Trump though will not be indicted IMO nor impeached. I think the man is borderline retarded at this point and has been handled by his family for a number of years already. There is going to be enough space to give him some kind of deniability.
All said, I think ultimately, Trump does more harm to Republicans by staying in office. Democrats shouldn't want him removed.
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