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Old 05-20-2018, 07:14 AM
 
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Considering a lot of Muslim women wear veils, Ms. Marvel should be required to a wear a mask. That is, if we are to comply with the logic of adhering to minorities.
And a lot of Muslim women do not wear veils--most outside Muslim countries do not, and even most in countries like Turkey do not-- so that doesn't add up to a "requirement."
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:17 AM
 
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I wish many of you here would have researched the character before responding. First off, this is Ms. Marvel, not Carol Danvers Captain Marvel. Second she is an American teenager of a Muslim family and she tries to find a balance between being an average American teenage girl and Muslim. Her hero worship geekiness and personal life issues are what make it a good series in comics. If done well it could be a good series or movie as long as they follow the similar formula of funny with a touch of drama and personal development. If they become too much a message that Muslims aren’t terrorist or Muslims always face discrimination for being Muslim then it could push away viewers. Movie goers want to be entertained, not have social and political messages constantly hitting them in the face throughout the movie. A light touch here and there in the movie would be enough as long as the story doesn’t revolve around that aspect of her life.
It's amazing how topics about topics about diversity in comics and comic movies bring out so many bigots who are so abysmally ignorant in the subject.

There are some debates to be had about SJW issues in comics and comic movies (as you point out) but people who are ignorant in the basic subject (and too stupid to check Wikipedia for a quick update) sure bring down the IQ level of the discussion.
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:22 AM
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Boils down to the fact that Muslims have money too. Capitalism ain't racist.
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:22 AM
 
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More political correctness, after hyping up the racial nature of Black Panther which coulda simply been an African movie without focusing on the racial issues.

Oh yes and the Black Panthers were a radical violent organization. Imagine if there was a white superhero named The Klansman.
Another post from someone ignorant of the comic character. Marvel's Black Panther actually predates the creation of the Black Panther Party.

Nor did the Black Panther Party ever commit acts of terror against any white people. Not only ignorant of comics, but ignorant of real life as well.
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Old 05-20-2018, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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So what's the difference between an African-American actor playing an African (pick a country) or vice versa and a Lebanese actor playing an American-Pakistani?
First off the Lebanese actor I mentioned is some 20 years older than the character in the comics. Now who knows if she would be aged up, but unless she was, it wouldn't work. The point is, that kind of actor is hard to find. I really want to see Ms. Marvel someday but they need to find someone Tom Holland aged at most.
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Old 05-20-2018, 11:21 AM
 
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First off the Lebanese actor I mentioned is some 20 years older than the character in the comics. Now who knows if she would be aged up, but unless she was, it wouldn't work. The point is, that kind of actor is hard to find. I really want to see Ms. Marvel someday but they need to find someone Tom Holland aged at most.
Okay, so it's just the age factor you're looking at.
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Old 05-20-2018, 11:33 AM
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And a lot of Muslim women do not wear veils--most outside Muslim countries do not, and even most in countries like Turkey do not-- so that doesn't add up to a "requirement."
My boss does not, nor does she wear a hijab. She's a transportation engineer.

I went to a scholarship dinner with her and others, all alumni of the engineering school in Karachi. A woman engineer who did wear the hijab got up and spoke passionately about guiding daughters to study physics and science because there is still an imbalance of men vs. women in the engineering disciplines.

I sat there thinking how many imbeciles there are out there who wouldn't believe it if they saw and heard it with their own eyes and ears.
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Old 05-20-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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Are muslim women allowed to be super heroes?
If they cover most of their face, I would assume so.
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Old 03-03-2019, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I saw this older post re-upped through the whole Captain Marvel controversy thread. I forget if I posted about this or not so bare with me.

I love Ms. Marvel. She is an amazing character. It is fan-girl culture. She is like what Spider-Man or Robin were in their day. She has a comic-book cover doing a selfie with Wolverine (the original not his daughter.) She is one of the most known new characters. I would LOVE to see her in the MCU but I see a few problems and none are the racial backlash.
  1. MCU congestion. With Disney buying Fox, this gives Fantastic Four, X-Men (and all the X-characters) and Silver Surfer as potential movie sources. This is on top of the Ant-Mans, Doctor Stranges, Black Panthers, etc.
  2. I don't really know any young Muslim actresses who can portray Kamala. I have heard fan-castings of her BUT I don't see them working because they don't look like the character or too old.

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Have they ever addressed the issue in these comics that the superheroes only seem to age ever so slightly? Peter Parker was born maybe about 1950 making him nearly 70 years old now. Jay Jonah Jameson would be 100 if the character is still alive, I haven't touched a comic book for at least 15 years. Characters die and get brought back or they do kill off some now and again for real. I'm guessing Peter Parker, if still around, is now in his 40s maybe? Have they replaced him with another character in the comics?
They redo characters to make them more topical for the present and always with an eye for marketability. But usually these efforts just make the characters less able to stand the test of time. Sell a few comics now, then shelve the idea in a year or two.
They could do retro movies with the classic characters back in their original time periods, say the 1960s. They need some kind of new gimmick to keep making movies.
Yes but here is an interesting comment about the comics, a comic arc of six books or so may take days to weeks or months, depending on how much time goes by. So if 12 to 24 books are released in a year, it might be 3 years for calendar one year to actually go by in the books. It isn't as close.
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Old 03-03-2019, 02:27 PM
 
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What is it with these superhero movies? We have an entire generation of people who think this garbage is entertaining.
You may as well be shouting Get off my lawn....
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