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Old 05-19-2018, 06:01 AM
 
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Warren Buffet and Bill Gates are 2 of the richest people in the world, are liberals jealous of them? No, and liberals go as far as to name laws after them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffett_Rule

Liberals are not jealous of the wealthy. Instead liberals oppose the wealthy controlling our government and they oppose the wealthy having lower tax rates than middle class Americans.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB1FXvYvcaI

Don't leave out all the RICH Hollywood celebs the left fawns over.


"Instead liberals oppose the wealthy controlling our government"


WRONG! They LOVE those wealthy who ARE DEMS.


Obama, hillary and bill, Pelosi, Feinstein, Tom Steyer, Soros, Reid, the list is LONG.


Where do you think all the BIG donation money comes from for the dems?


I KNOW you are NOT naive but, VERY biased.
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Old 05-19-2018, 06:10 AM
 
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We don't have royalty/nobility in America. We fought a revolution over it. CEOs don't qualify as contemporary replacements.
Better pay for more Americans instead of vulgar pay for a handful of fatcats.

There's no justification for obscene CEO/Executive pay.


"Better pay for more Americans instead of vulgar pay for a handful of fatcats."


Looks like you are very jealous that YOU could NOT succeed like thy did.


I fond it very ironic all the libs on her thinking they are so much smarter then the rest of us, ALWAYS giving us "business" advise on what a business can, should do, yet, I would bet MOST of them have NEVER Owned a successful business or even ran one.


So, Old gringo, being YOU want to give so much advise on how to run a business, WHAT IS YOUR BUSINESS SUCCESS STORY?


I mean you pretend to know it all, so how about sharing it with us, If you want any credibility on the sibject.


"Put up or shut up", as they say!
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Old 05-19-2018, 06:12 AM
 
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Not true. Only CEO’s work hard.

No you didn’t.

Even if I were jealous, that’s beside the point. Address the issue.

Say that when burger flippers want $15 an hour.

Thank you!!

That’s complete BS. The CEO is not just another worker. One minute you guys are claiming that these are extraordinary individuals that have nearly godlike abilities to generate profits, the next minute you’re making a case that they’re members of the proletariat.

Gimme a break.

There is no way in hell that most of these CEO’s deserve hundreds to thousands time what their own workers make. When compared to their foreign counterparts, it’s absolutely obscene.


Thank you!! What in the hell makes an American CEO worth more to his company than an American CEO? After living in Germany, I know that their corporate culture is a helluva lot better than ours is. German corporations are usually the picture of stability and profitability WHILE paying their workers excellent pay and benefits.


It’s already a problem.

What in the hell accounts for CEO’s being so much more valuable now than they were in 1950? Absolutely nothing and we all know it.

It’s gotten way out of hand.

Again, burger flippers asking for $15 was triggering you types left and right. Why were you so concerned with what they were asking for?



It’s simply outrageous.

"It’s simply outrageous"


It's simply JEALOUSY!
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Old 05-19-2018, 07:27 AM
 
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"It’s simply outrageous"
It's simply JEALOUSY!
No, it's not jealousy..it's concern that when almost all of a nation's wealth is concentrated at the top, it harms all of us. We have multi-billionaire CEO's who have enough money to buy a college and and the working class avoids going to college because they are afraid they won't be able to pay off student loans.

We have people with brilliant creative minds who will never become a successful entrepreneur, or write the next great novel or invent something life changing because so all of their time and energy is consumed by trying to earn enough money to support their family.

We are headed for neofeudalism where 95% of us work at the pleasure of the landed gentry, is that really ok with you?
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Old 05-19-2018, 07:45 AM
 
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Don't leave out all the RICH Hollywood celebs the left fawns over.
"Instead liberals oppose the wealthy controlling our government"
WRONG! They LOVE those wealthy who ARE DEMS.
Obama, hillary and bill, Pelosi, Feinstein, Tom Steyer, Soros, Reid, the list is LONG.
Where do you think all the BIG donation money comes from for the dems?
I KNOW you are NOT naive but, VERY biased.
your argument might be more persuasive if it wasn't yet another "yeah but what about liberals" rant.
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Old 05-19-2018, 08:04 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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They shouldn't. The low-paid (read: no/low skill) Walmart employees need to make changes to their lifestyle to live within their means. Their sense of entitlement is too high.
Who, then, will run the check out counters at Wal Mart when you wish to shop? Who will work at the fulfillment centers of Amazon? I stand by my statement. It's utterly ridiculous that the middle class american taxpayer subsidize Wal Mart and Amazon by paying for food stamps for their employees.


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No, it's not jealousy..it's concern that when almost all of a nation's wealth is concentrated at the top, it harms all of us. We have multi-billionaire CEO's who have enough money to buy a college and and the working class avoids going to college because they are afraid they won't be able to pay off student loans.

We have people with brilliant creative minds who will never become a successful entrepreneur, or write the next great novel or invent something life changing because so all of their time and energy is consumed by trying to earn enough money to support their family.

We are headed for neofeudalism where 95% of us work at the pleasure of the landed gentry, is that really ok with you?
That's the infantile thinking of the conservative. There is no nuance ~ just spit out "You're jealous" like a third grader.

Of course we should all be concerned where all the wealth in a country is concentrated in the hands of only the very wealthy who ALSO buy politicians to create the rules that further benefit them.
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Old 05-19-2018, 08:24 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Who, then, will run the check out counters at Wal Mart when you wish to shop? Who will work at the fulfillment centers of Amazon? I stand by my statement. It's utterly ridiculous that the middle class american taxpayer subsidize Wal Mart and Amazon by paying for food stamps for their employees.
Then don't. Why aren't they living within their means?
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Old 05-19-2018, 08:39 AM
 
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Then don't. Why aren't they living within their means?
Because "their means" results in them living in poverty So we subsidize the $hit wages they are paid with SNAP, medicaid, EITC, subsidized housing and it will never end because those corporations will make sure that they never have to pay an actual living wage, it's much more lucrative for them to shift the burden to taxpayers.
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Old 05-19-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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Because "their means" results in them living in poverty.
If that's all their skills are worth, what's the problem?
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Old 05-19-2018, 08:47 AM
 
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If that's all their skills are worth, what's the problem?
Who is deciding what their skills are worth? Think about it...in much of rural America Walmart is the only retailer of any size, they have no competition, they can pay whatever they want and people have no choice but to accept it. The only time a firm offers higher wages is if they need to in order to attract workers.

Fast food joints collude with each other to keep wages low, they use non compete agreements which keep their employees from being able to look for a better paying job in that industry.
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