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Old 05-30-2018, 03:32 PM
 
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https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/20...vancouver.html

Guess, they need to either increase the taxes, decrease the wages of the health care workers at the hospitals or take on debt for general operations.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellne...ry?id=10508791

I am all for Medicare, Medicaid and State-run insurance cooperatives as long as it's a small state, with Japanese diets and obesity rates and mountain athletic lifestyles.

But overall I can't imagine what will happen if states here in the United States start going single-payer like certain large states have proposed.

American's are far less healthy than Canadians. I can't imagine the waiting times here if we go to a Canadian style system.

The only way a socialized system might work here in the U.S would be if the federal government just gave a block grant based on population to the states and we lived as healthy as people in Japan and the wages were much lower in the health care profession.



Dude! Emergency rooms are NOT first come first serve, people!!


If you don't have a life threatening emergency, you are going to be waiting for a lonnnnggg time. That's just how it is, everywhere around the developed world.



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Old 05-30-2018, 03:37 PM
 
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Better to wait 7 hours in an ER in Canada than to have no hospital at all in the U.S.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...-closures.html

There's is and has been an epidemic of rural hospital closures in America.
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Old 05-30-2018, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Somewhere Out West
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https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/20...vancouver.html

Guess, they need to either increase the taxes, decrease the wages of the health care workers at the hospitals or take on debt for general operations.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellne...ry?id=10508791

I am all for Medicare, Medicaid and State-run insurance cooperatives as long as it's a small state, with Japanese diets and obesity rates and mountain athletic lifestyles.

But overall I can't imagine what will happen if states here in the United States start going single-payer like certain large states have proposed.

American's are far less healthy than Canadians. I can't imagine the waiting times here if we go to a Canadian style system.

The only way a socialized system might work here in the U.S would be if the federal government just gave a block grant based on population to the states and we lived as healthy as people in Japan and the wages were much lower in the health care profession
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Except Canada doesn't have a socialized healthcare system, it has 11 independent single payer systems. Each province runs their own system, and the Fed Gov't is responsible for the 3 territories. Single payer denotes the gov't determines your healthcare, something that does not happen in Canada. Your doctor determines your healthcare and the gov't through the provincial health insurance system, pays the bills.
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Old 05-30-2018, 05:14 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Many Canadians come here for health care.
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Old 05-30-2018, 05:21 PM
 
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Many Canadians come here for health care.

In 2014 that was a whopping...52,513...for all countries. So the Canada to US number is lower then that.

FAR more US citizens look for healthcare overseas. Im seeing numbers in the hundreds of thousands.

You folks trying to make out how bad Canadas healthcare system are getting crushed here with reality. The US system is truly horrific. It is in fact indefensible.
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Old 05-30-2018, 05:34 PM
 
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Many Canadians come here for health care.


Keep digging until you can't see over the top edge of the hole you're digging.
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Old 05-30-2018, 05:39 PM
 
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Many Canadians come here for health care.
No they don't and the ones that do ,Canada pays for it.
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Old 05-30-2018, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Many Canadians come here for health care.
lol
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Old 05-30-2018, 06:02 PM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by lovecrowds View Post
https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/20...vancouver.html

Guess, they need to either increase the taxes, decrease the wages of the health care workers at the hospitals or take on debt for general operations.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellne...ry?id=10508791

I am all for Medicare, Medicaid and State-run insurance cooperatives as long as it's a small state, with Japanese diets and obesity rates and mountain athletic lifestyles.

But overall I can't imagine what will happen if states here in the United States start going single-payer like certain large states have proposed.

American's are far less healthy than Canadians. I can't imagine the waiting times here if we go to a Canadian style system.

The only way a socialized system might work here in the U.S would be if the federal government just gave a block grant based on population to the states and we lived as healthy as people in Japan and the wages were much lower in the health care profession.
We have waited longer than that and had to pay for the privilege.
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Old 05-30-2018, 06:07 PM
 
Location: FL
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Many Canadians come here for health care.
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