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LOL. Thousands? Oh...lol. Know who pays more? Americans. Canada is #2 on this. And we sell our homes over accrued medical debt too.
Imagine the Canadian helathcare system...only 10X worse. Welcome to America. A hospital ride? $2,000 for the last one I had to pay for here. My medications if I lose my job? $1,600 a month. Oh and the medication that works best is too expensive so my health insurance refused to cover it.
I had to spend 3.5 months in the hospital about 14 years ago. It involved at least two ambulance transfers.
Although I did not have any earnings (obviously), I paid exactly zero for any medical bills, including drugs while under care. That includes two surgeries that were required.
^^ I work for one of the biggest healthcare companies in the US, trust me, my company finds ways to insert themselves into government run programs. Much of our business is government contracts Medicaid/Tricare/Medicare. The US govt will not be running a VA or NHS type system for all citizens, ever.
Even when the company lost money on the ACA exchanges, profits soared from other areas of the business despite how bad the media made it seem ACA was for us.
Exactly. My girlfriend is a case manager for one of the largest insurers in the US, and I am very aware of how the so called "compliance" matrix affects care. It makes for interesting discussions about the differences in our health care systems. She envies what I have, even though supposedly her coverage is gold plated.
I had to spend 3.5 months in the hospital about 14 years ago. It involved at least two ambulance transfers.
Although I did not have any earnings (obviously), I paid exactly zero for any medical bills, including drugs while under care. That includes two surgeries that were required.
I would be bankrupt in the USA.
Perhaps we should all start migrating to the massive country of Canada where there are so few people. And get everything free.
I can't imagine what waiting for medical care is like because I have never had to.
Every time I have visited the ER, I have been seen within a few minutes.
However, I have waited long hours at the Secretary of State (Michigan's version of the DMV) to renew my license.
In fact, I can't recall ever doing something with a government agency that didn't involve me waiting several hours, even after setting an appointment date, for a service that required just a couple minutes of a government employee's time.
A state agency (take your pick) will always be the model of inefficiency and incompetency.
Well this current U.S. president wants to privitize everything so maybe we'll get all things from private sector. I'll be gone by then.
I can't imagine what waiting for medical care is like because I have never had to.
Every time I have visited the ER, I have been seen within a few minutes.
However, I have waited long hours at the Secretary of State (Michigan's version of the DMV) to renew my license.
In fact, I can't recall ever doing something with a government agency that didn't involve me waiting several hours, even after setting an appointment date, for a service that required just a couple minutes of a government employee's time.
A state agency (take your pick) will always be the model of inefficiency and incompetency.
You might want to chat with those three patients I posted about in post number five of this thread...oh wait....you can't; they all died while waiting in an American ER.
Here's another example from ten years ago that would indicate people aren't the least fazed by waiting in emergency rooms as this one died on the floor and nobody seemed to think it was extraordinary, just sat there and ignored the spectacle. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/emergen...parks-outrage/
Perhaps we should all start migrating to the massive country of Canada where there are so few people. And get everything free.
Except Canadians don't get free healthcare. They know that. It is paid for out of their taxes, not at time of delivery. You don't receive a bill when you seek care.
And before you say but taxes, the tax rates in Canada are now lower than they are in many parts of the U.S. I paid more in taxes in California than I did in Ontario.
The study you are referring to is by a conservative think tank, "Fraser", they claim that 63,000 Canadians went out of country for healthcare. The way they came to that figure is a little odd, but even if it's accurate- there is no breakdown on which country they went to for healthcare, it could be that a number of them went to one of the Eastern European Countries that are known for cheap hair transplants, or to Mexico for dental or plastic surgery. In any case given that the population of Canada is 37,000,000 it looks like about .17% of the population left that country for some form of healthcare. In 2016 1.4 million Americans went outside of the US for healthcare which is about .43%
Same problem in the UK with the NHS. The problem is these countries need to charge a copay to discourage people seeing the doc for the littlest ache or pain or sniffle. Waste of time.
If you want to see an entertaining Britcom about this, watch Doc Martin starring Martin Clunes. It has the ring of truth and is wonderful on every level -- writing, acting, directing. Perfection!
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