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Old 03-14-2019, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Nope. A six pack of beer in Canada is close to $20. You are paying for that “free” service. A pack of cigarettes is $15 to $18.
Nothing could be smaller than my amount of concern for those who have to pay high prices for beer and tobacco.
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:24 PM
 
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https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/20...vancouver.html

Guess, they need to either increase the taxes, decrease the wages of the health care workers at the hospitals or take on debt for general operations.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellne...ry?id=10508791

I am all for Medicare, Medicaid and State-run insurance cooperatives as long as it's a small state, with Japanese diets and obesity rates and mountain athletic lifestyles.

But overall I can't imagine what will happen if states here in the United States start going single-payer like certain large states have proposed.

American's are far less healthy than Canadians. I can't imagine the waiting times here if we go to a Canadian style system.

The only way a socialized system might work here in the U.S would be if the federal government just gave a block grant based on population to the states and we lived as healthy as people in Japan and the wages were much lower in the health care profession.
The vast majority of Canadians would not give up their system, neither will anyone in Europe or Far East Asia.

I am reasonably conservative and even I realize that the US desperately needs a public health care system. The poor already have Medicaid or are so poor that not paying won't affect them. The rich don't have to worry. Only the middle class has to worry. Time to fix it and create affordable medical insurance for the middle class.

It's probably the only new government program that will improve the economy as people tied to their jobs for health insurance can leave and move to new companies or their own and create new value in the economy.
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:36 PM
 
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Nope. A six pack of beer in Canada is close to $20. You are paying for that “free” service. A pack of cigarettes is $15 to $18.
The cost of the US military empire is also rolled into everything you buy.

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/let...military-bases
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:39 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Try again in NS. I own a condo in Halifax.
Yep, sure you do. We all should have known that. Do you sell guns there? Do you run a train or fly your plane up there for their healthcare?
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:47 PM
 
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Yep, sure you do. We all should have known that. Do you sell guns there? Do you run a train or fly your plane up there for their healthcare?
You caught that, eh?

At various times this one has claimed to own a cattle ranch, fly a Cessna T310, operate a firearms sales store all while working at driving trains for the BNSF and posting on here 24/7.

Even if the one thing he claims to do is accurate; that of driving those trains, you don't work for the BNSF as an engineer unless you're a member of a Union and as such that kinda blows a hole through another of his claims; looking after his own healthcare.

He's getting his medical benefits courtesy of the bargaining power of a "socialist collective" with himself having nothing whatsoever to do with it.

Ya gotta love the irony.
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:49 PM
 
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You caught that, eh?

At various times this one has claimed to own a cattle ranch, fly a Cessna T310, operate a firearms sales store all while working at driving trains for the BNSF and posting on here 24/7.

Even if the one thing he claims to do is accurate; that of driving those trains, you don't work for the BNSF as an engineer unless you're a member of a Union and as such that kinda blows a hole through another of his claims; looking after his own healthcare.

He's getting his medical benefits courtesy of the bargaining power of a socialist "collective" with himself having nothing whatsoever to do with it.

Ya gotta love the irony.
Bwahahahaha!!!! Seriously??? How pathetic.
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:50 PM
 
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I think they are talking about American brands, not ones I have never heard of.



And how much are cigs?
Canadians have a word for American beer, which is usually cheap. They say it tastes like .... (redacted but visualize urine) water.
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:00 PM
 
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If you want to go with the occurances as they've been recorded; here's one when American Healthcare was supposedly at it's zenith.

Shocking Video Shows Brooklyn Hospital's Neglect as Patient Dies in Emergency Room: Gothamist
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:06 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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I have had to use the ER twice in the country I live in now.
First time due to kidney stones. ER wait was less than 2 minutes. Long enough to sign the paper work.
The second time was due to a Motorcycle accident. Dog literally ran into my front tire. I was peeled up pretty good. ER wait was 0.
Total out of pocket charges? $12 US dollars for both. That included 2 follow up visits for the stones and 8 followups after the bike accident.

Good affordable health care is possible. Just not if you are devoting 700+ billion a year on the military alone.
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Old 03-14-2019, 07:53 PM
 
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Yep, sure you do. We all should have known that. Do you sell guns there? Do you run a train or fly your plane up there for their healthcare?
I don’t use their healthcare. It sucks. Many times on my way to my condo I pass by the QEII hospital on Summer street and I see hugely obese people that are patients in that hospital puffing down a pack of cigarettes.

But I do fly my plane there. It gets hangered at Gateway FBO at Stanfield International Airport.

The rest of your questions are obviously stupid.
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