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Old 03-14-2019, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I don’t use their healthcare. It sucks. Many times on my way to my condo I pass by the QEII hospital on Summer street and I see hugely obese people that are patients in that hospital puffing down a pack of cigarettes.
But I do fly my plane there. It gets hangered at Gateway FBO at Stanfield International Airport.
The rest of your questions are obviously stupid.
You can't smoke in Canadian hospitals.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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In a city ER waits can be very long - more people - an outbreak like the RSV virus - kids in hallways - really bad- some days better than others - but we all wait
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:02 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Problem; I don’t drink.
Literally no-one cares.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/20...vancouver.html

Guess, they need to either increase the taxes, decrease the wages of the health care workers at the hospitals or take on debt for general operations.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellne...ry?id=10508791

I am all for Medicare, Medicaid and State-run insurance cooperatives as long as it's a small state, with Japanese diets and obesity rates and mountain athletic lifestyles.

But overall I can't imagine what will happen if states here in the United States start going single-payer like certain large states have proposed.

American's are far less healthy than Canadians. I can't imagine the waiting times here if we go to a Canadian style system.

The only way a socialized system might work here in the U.S would be if the federal government just gave a block grant based on population to the states and we lived as healthy as people in Japan and the wages were much lower in the health care profession.

EMTALA has been law for 33 years. Hospital ERs cannot decline a patient due to a lack of insurance or inability to pay.

Insurance is the transfer of risk in exchange for a premium. All insurance; healthcare, liability, auto, property, life, disability, unemployment, workers comp, income, farm crop, earthquake, flood, etc mutualize risk, regardless if it’s public or private. Mutualizarion socializes risks.

Single Payer means different things to different people. Medicare is viewed as a Single Payer model. When I turn 65 I will have prepaid the equivalent of 50 years of premiums in the form of a payroll tax. I will then have to continue to pay a Medicare premium and buy a Supplimental plan to help cover what Medicare does not. Or I could opt out of traditional Medicare and get an Advantage Plan with a narrow healthcare provider network. I will also have to buy a separate plan for prescription medications.

In absence of prepaying premiums for 50 years, what might the premium of a Single Payer/ Medicare for all model be?
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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And?

My last ER visiting the US had a six hour wait. What’s your point? I had to pay out of pocket for service, theirs is free.
Nothing is free.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:37 PM
 
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You can't smoke in Canadian hospitals.
Think clearly. I said I pass down Summer St going by the QEII hospital and I see hugely obese patients smoking down cigarettes. So, stay with me, I am driving a car, you follow, so I must be outside. So must the smokers. Does it now make sense?
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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That only happens in filthy liberal cities, according to the OP.

Life is perfect in the largest Republican city, Oklahoma City.

Even better in North Dakota that does not yet have a Level One Trauma Center. Those in need are airlifted to a liberal city.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:38 PM
 
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Literally no-one cares.
Did I asked if anyone cared?
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:41 PM
 
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Canadians have a word for American beer, which is usually cheap. They say it tastes like .... (redacted but visualize urine) water.
Yeah that's an old school claim.

Now with craft beer -- THe USA is just doing fine (and I'm originally Canadian who missed Canadian beer for years -- not so much now).
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Better to wait 7 hours in an ER in Canada than to have no hospital at all in the U.S.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...-closures.html

There's is and has been an epidemic of rural hospital closures in America.
Declining populations in some rural areas of the US are increasingly unable to sustain a local hospital.
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