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Old 06-10-2018, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Still no answer. Just deflection. People do things for a reason. Why would an innocent man want to hide the truth?
Hey, why don't you let the government investigate your bank accounts. What do you have to worry about if you've done nothing wrong?
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Old 06-10-2018, 12:30 PM
 
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This is common sense to most logical people, but I imagine Trump voters will disagree:

If Donald Trump truly has done nothing wrong and has nothing to hide, then the Russia investigation will prove his innocence and he will be exonerated. With that being said, why does Trump want it to end so badly???


https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/st...54872117772288

There actually little "logic" to this statement at all, especially coming, as it purportedly does, by some joker pretending to be a current or former FBI agent.


This investigation isn't going to prove anyone's innocence; nor is it incumbent on any accused or suspect that they "prove their innocence." The starting point is the presumption of innocence, obviously.


What the FBI investigation into Trump may show is that there has been no evidence brought forward that links Trump to any illegal/criminal activity. While the Special Counsel really hasn't even come close to that (indictments of Russian ham sandwiches aside, and also leaving aside the fact that one Russian ham sandwich took Mueller's indictment and embarrassingly jammed it up his wazoo), the reason Trump might want the investigation to end is that if it ends now, he's completely in the clear, legally speaking. So far, with regard to Trump, all the Special Counsel has is breathless innuendo.


So Trump's position here, that the investigation should end now, makes perfect sense from a legal standpoint.


What doesn't make sense is why some jackass pretending to be an FBI agent apparently doesn't understand that under our system of jurisprudence, the accused (even if there were enough credible evidence to classify Trump as an accused, which there isn't, at this point) is required to "prove his/her innocence." It's the investigators' job to gather enough evidence to file charges, and the Special Counsel hasn't even come close to that yet. Once they have sufficient evidence to get an indictment (or to impeach, in the case of a sitting President), it's up to the prosecuting parties to prove the guilt of the suspect beyond a reasonable doubt.



It's just this type of poor reasoning on the part of this alleged FBI clown quoted above that casts doubt on the current level of efficacy of the FBI as an institution. That, and the inescapable fact that the rogue elements in the FBI (and the CIA) apparently thought it was a part of their job description to determine, in their own infinite wisdom, which candidate should be the next President, and which one should not.
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Old 06-10-2018, 12:51 PM
 
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This is common sense to most logical people, but I imagine Trump voters will disagree:

If Donald Trump truly has done nothing wrong and has nothing to hide, then the Russia investigation will prove his innocence and he will be exonerated. With that being said, why does Trump want it to end so badly???


https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/st...54872117772288
Poor Neut, I feel sorry for you. why don't you try getting a life, Trump is the man and he is MAGA, and he is making you better than you ever have before. You owe him, learn to love him, learn to cherish him. He has nothing but good things to say about you..
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Old 06-10-2018, 12:54 PM
 
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Still no answer. Just deflection. People do things for a reason. Why would an innocent man want to hide the truth?

Many answers, because you agree with what they are doing, does not make it right....
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Old 06-10-2018, 12:54 PM
 
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He can certainly ask for anything he wants. The investigation will take as long it takes. He doesn't have a say. But he's not asking. He's obstructing. And he's appealing to the brainless/malevolent thugs he has left to do his bidding when it hits the fan.
I think you need to give up chocolate, it's affecting your ability to reason.
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Old 06-10-2018, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Really, is that a question?

This money wasting investigating has to stop!

After all this time all charges are for people who did something wrong before the elections or lied to investigators but not lying about anything that included Trump.

Mueller is just wasting money!
Benghazi to you, too.
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Old 06-10-2018, 01:10 PM
 
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Benghazi to you, too.

Americans died, why is this investigation going on? Be specific, what crime was trump known to due to begin this investigation? Be specific....no speculation, what was known....
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Old 06-10-2018, 01:26 PM
 
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Hey, why don't you let the government investigate your bank accounts. What do you have to worry about if you've done nothing wrong?
Ok by me....they get all that every year anyway.
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Old 06-10-2018, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I find the answer to be fairly simple. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL if wild accusations were being thrown at you for 18 months without a SHRED of evidence ?
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Old 06-10-2018, 01:28 PM
 
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Poor Neut, I feel sorry for you. why don't you try getting a life, Trump is the man and he is MAGA, and he is making you better than you ever have before. You owe him, learn to love him, learn to cherish him. He has nothing but good things to say about you..
^Said by cultists before they chug their kool-aid.
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