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Old 06-14-2018, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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It is in the Constitution too, which overrides any DOJ "handbook"
Violates the 4th, 5th and 6th amendments.
The law isn’t Burger King. You don’t get it ‘your way’.

 
Old 06-14-2018, 09:35 AM
 
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https://www.dni.gov/index.php/ic-leg...procedures-act



There are mounds of rulings on this matter. It's simply not out of the ordinary for a prosecutor to withhold evidence that may involve matters of national security or classified matters.

What is surprising is the level of sheer ignorance displayed with regards to this matter.
No, it's a common excuse but the defense gets the info or the charges are dropped. A judge can make sure the information doesn't get out or transfer the case to another court.
 
Old 06-14-2018, 09:36 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The law isn’t Burger King. You don’t get it ‘your way’.
You wouldn't be that Marxist, would you?


It is the entire reason there is a 2nd Amendment. I bet I can have it my way.
No, is defended by the barrel of my gun. It says so right in the Constitution.
 
Old 06-14-2018, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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Mueller has 1.4 million pages of documents and 2 years to prove his case against Donald Trump, but still .... nothing. His approval rating is sinking fast and people are tired of the whole thing.

Now it could very well be that the Russians tried to interfere in the election, and maybe Mueller has something on them. I doubt, however, that Donald Trump had any connection to it.

There is a distinction there that few people, and especially the leftist media, just can't seem to recognize. One thing doesn't have anything to do with the other, and I think that will be the final determination. Liberal heads will explode, but that's a daily occurrence anyway.
 
Old 06-14-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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https://www.dni.gov/index.php/ic-leg...procedures-act



There are mounds of rulings on this matter. It's simply not out of the ordinary for a prosecutor to withhold evidence that may involve matters of national security or classified matters.

What is surprising is the level of sheer ignorance displayed with regards to this matter.
Beat your head against a brick wall, spit into the wind, cite cases to your heart's content. Won't change a thing.

Can you picture the DOJ prosecuting organized crime figures and disclosing the names of undercover agents and informants, the precise location of listening devices. Besides, there's a shadow Supreme Court here that doesn't recognize the legitimacy of the faux court in D.C..
 
Old 06-14-2018, 10:04 AM
 
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You wouldn't be that Marxist, would you?


It is the entire reason there is a 2nd Amendment. I bet I can have it my way.
No, is defended by the barrel of my gun. It says so right in the Constitution.
Ooh.. a true law abiding red state fascist.

I’ll cherry pick which law applies to me...
 
Old 06-14-2018, 10:06 AM
 
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No, it's a common excuse but the defense gets the info or the charges are dropped. A judge can make sure the information doesn't get out or transfer the case to another court.
Not usual and certainly not always.

God the rules and legal precedents is right there....
 
Old 06-14-2018, 10:33 AM
 
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Oh look, libs working hard to shift the focus off Trump’s triumph in NK.
There is no triumph in NK.

It was a big PR win for Kim, who gave up nothing, received a concession from us and a whole bunch of legitimacy for his corrupt and immoral regime. To his people Kim will look as though he has frightened us into submission, causing us to run away with our bombers and ships, and he will look more heroic to them than ever.

Trump perhaps gets to develop resorts there, if it all works out.

I hope for the best, we could sure use a more stable situation. I really hope he achieves something toward ratcheting down the military situation in Korea and removing the nukes, but I think any reasonable person would have to acknowledge it is way too early to claim any sort of success.

North Korea has made two solemn promises to abandon nuclear development in the past, and they were not true to their word. They know how to play this game, they have an institutional memory of how to bamboozle outside powers, they can out-fickle the best at it. We could come out of this looking very silly.

So keep your powder dry and you can crow all you want later, it's way too early for that.
 
Old 06-14-2018, 05:28 PM
 
Location: United States
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We got confirmation, there is no classified information in the discovery material Mueller wants to withhold from the defendants.

Also, Mueller cites no other cases where this has been don before.

Mueller want to use the evidence in court, but doesn't want the defendants to have access to it.

lawyers for the Russians gave mueller a pretty good slap down today.


https://twitter.com/almostjingo/stat...37537084329984
 
Old 06-14-2018, 06:20 PM
 
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Not usual and certainly not always.

God the rules and legal precedents is right there....
They haven't got what is right there.
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