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Discovery is a beech, when you didn't expect the other party to actually show up to clear their name.
You cannot have it both ways Mueller. You cannot create law, by requesting censorship of government transparency.
They work for you, they work for me. They are not Kings.
The investigation on this guy should be done... There was an indictment, right? Discovery is discovery.
How can anyone wage a defense to clear your name, without knowing what they got on you and how they got it on you? Mueller got PUNKED, by his own ego.
Cough it up or drop the charges.... Time to play ball!
National security issues are certainly kept under wraps. There’s an entire CFR that covers it. Look it up.
Ignorantia juris non excusat.
Then they should have never charged they guy, if he has no way to clear his name.
Mueller is never going to give a Russian the Discovery that is Constitutionally his right, or this would be a military tribunal, instead.
So, it is either cough it up, or drop the charges.
Same with everyone charged.... Mueller is holding back discovery. Even Flynn, that has plead guilty, keeps having sentencing pushed back again and again. Why would Mueller do that?
Mueller is acting as if he has the most power in the nation right now, with privilege that goes way beyond Constitutional freedoms and liberties. The 4th, 5th & 6th Amendments got squashed by Mueller.
We have to suspend the constitution and the rights there in, because Russian spies.
Did you mean 2012?
Tell Vlad that I need more time, don't make this a campaign issue. Romney thinks you guys are geopolitical adversaries, what a fool, the MSM is having a field day bashing Romney for me over those comments! Tell Vlad that he can have more flexibility on these issues after the election.
The motion does not ask to withhold discovery from the defense lawyers. Most people won't bother to read the motion for a protective order, but I think you'll take a few minutes to read it.
What could look any worse than our current POTUS colluding with a foreign dictatorial tyrant in order to win the 2016 presidential election?
Mueller has tons of electronic evidence on Cohen, Manafort, and Flynn.
STAY TUNED!
And he has refused discovery in all those cases too.....
Flynn only plead guilty, because unlike Manafort, his bank account was drained by slimy lawyers.
The motion does not ask to withhold discovery from the defense lawyers. Most people won't bother to read the motion for a protective order, but I think you'll take a few minutes to read it.
The protective order gambit is a ruse. IF 'sources and methods' were a concern, the indictments should never have been filed.
about your comment for a minute and you'll agree with me that it's a
There's nothing unusual about sources and methods given special treatment in criminal cases. You don't think in DOJ prosecution of organized crime or terrorist activity there's care in how discovery is treated.
The judge might reject Mueller's motion, but it's ridiculous to claim there should never be an indictment if sources and methods are a concern.
Then they should have never charged they guy, if he has no way to clear his name.
Mueller is never going to give a Russian the Discovery that is Constitutionally his right, or this would be a military tribunal, instead.
So, it is either cough it up, or drop the charges.
Same with everyone charged.... Mueller is holding back discovery. Even Flynn, that has plead guilty, keeps having sentencing pushed back again and again. Why would Mueller do that?
Mueller is acting as if he has the most power in the nation right now, with privilege that goes way beyond Constitutional freedoms and liberties. The 4th, 5th & 6th Amendments got squashed by Mueller.
The court, upon a sufficient showing, may authorize the United States to delete specified items of classified information from documents to be made available to the defendant through discovery under the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, to substitute a summary of the information for such classified documents, or to substitute a statement admitting relevant facts that the classified information would tend to prove. The court may permit the United States to make a request for such authorization in the form of a written statement to be inspected by the court alone. If the court enters an order granting relief following such an ex parte showing, the entire text of the statement of the United States shall be sealed and preserved in the records of the court to be made available to the appellate court in the event of an appeal.
There are mounds of rulings on this matter. It's simply not out of the ordinary for a prosecutor to withhold evidence that may involve matters of national security or classified matters.
What is surprising is the level of sheer ignorance displayed with regards to this matter.
It is in the Constitution too, which overrides any DOJ "handbook"
Violates the 4th, 5th and 6th amendments.
It is the same reason red light cameras were found to be unconstitutional.
Questioning your accuser is what justice is all about.
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