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Voluntary charity is a blessing.
Compulsory charity is a curse.
So, in your opinion, when "everyone" is paying, then "everyone" is getting the same benefit.
Except, they aren't getting the "same" benefit.
[b]How do you explain the administrative cost deducted by the government?
Don't you think that is INFLATING the cost for healthcare?[b]
And that when "everyone" believes they have a "right" to healthcare, they overburden the system, causing triage and delays.
And do you suppose that wealthy and politically connected folks get preferential treatment?
A survey by the Fraser Institute found a median wait of 20 weeks for “medically necessary” treatments and procedures in 2016 – the longest-recorded wait time since the think tank began tracking wait times.
Medicare's administrative cost is around 3%.
Private health Insurer's costs run about three times as much.
Why do you think that is?
Well one is trying to make a profit.
and yes healthcare is a right just like clean water and air....hush now because I bet if you could you would charge for both !
Baloney. There is no reason why America cant have the most expensive universal health care system in the world, at 12% of GDP. All other universal health care systems cost less than 12% of GDP. Our current system cost 18% of GDP (50% government/taxes and 50% private).
The amount of waste, fraud and abuse in this most expensive and most privatized for-profit system is insane. Price gouging and rip-offs on an epic scale is what we encourage when we dont control health care costs, and we dont.
12% of GDP is $2.3 trillion. $1.85 trillion of that would be tax funded (80% of health care spending, typical of other countries). We currently pay $1.6 trillion in taxes to fund our current system. A few hundred billion can easily be raised by small tax increases. A 1% universal health care payroll tax and a 4% federal sales tax would easily raise at least $500 billion a year.
Lets assume all your numbers are true and it is that simple. On my current pay stub my employer claims they're paying about 720 a month for my insurance plan which is about as good as coverage as you can get. If we are eliminating that do I in turn get the 720 and then pay a 1% on my total income or does the company get that and I now pay 1% more for leaches coverage and also lose the excellent coverage I have now?
Medicare's administrative cost is around 3%.
Private health Insurer's costs run about three times as much.
Why do you think that is?
Well one is trying to make a profit.
and yes healthcare is a right just like clean water and air....hush now because I bet if you could you would charge for both !
If it is a right and rights must now be paid for by the tax payers where do I submit my wish list of guns since having that is also a right?
Lets assume all your numbers are true and it is that simple. On my current pay stub my employer claims they're paying about 720 a month for my insurance plan which is about as good as coverage as you can get. If we are eliminating that do I in turn get the 720 and then pay a 1% on my total income or does the company get that and I now pay 1% more for leaches coverage and also lose the excellent coverage I have now?
do you get the 720.... nope
do you get a raise... nope
what you get is a 40k tax bill annually (the 6 trillion cost of covering 330 million at 100% / divided / by the 160 million tax filers (of which 47% have a zero or negative tax liability (IOW they dont pay)))
The real problem is the American mind set. There are some very selfish people, with their, 'I got mine' mentality. Plus a genuine feeling in some, that they are responsible for their own health care, and not for others.
We have had UHC in Britain for 70 years. The government don't run the NHS, which seems to be a fear among some Americans. A fear they would make a mess of it, like so much else. The British government fund the NHS from taxation, but it is run by health care professionals.
I'm not against UHC, as long as it doesn't increase my taxes.
I would approve of UHC if the government took the cost ENTIRELY out of our military budget.
Military spending <<< now that's wasteful.
A few years ago when Americans were discussing healthcare because of the then upcoming Affordable Care Act, Canada was portrayed as some socialist backwater where death panels decided who lived or died, and people were dying in waiting rooms.
An official statement from the government of Canada requested the US discussion not tell blatant lies about the Canadian system. This video shows you how even a senator, a smug one, has no clue what he is talking about.
Sorry I can't stand youtube videos and I don't really have time to watch this one, especially as it seems to "star" Bernie Sanders. Suppose you post a link to this statement. Some of that stuff in your other link (Save Canada's public health care) made some over the top statements about US health care as well.
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Originally Posted by suzy_q2010
I agree. Americans still cannot decide on what benefits to provide and how to finance them. They want coverage for every office visit and every medication. Heaven forbid that someone treat the common cold with rest, pushing fluids, and OTC meds for symptoms.
Yes! I would like to see UHC myself. However, many people have very unrealistic ideas of what UHC, particularly single-payer, really is. Some envision a system that would be like a total cash system here in the US, where no one or ones scrutinizes care, disallows some of it, has any limits whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by Catgirl64
Do you really think people don't wait for knee or hip replacements in the US? That's adorable.
I have to say, I did not have to wait for my hip replacement here in metro Denver.
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