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The whole dealing with insurance companies is insane. Heck, even if you are paying for it you still have to pay a deductible and HOPE your insurance covers whatever it is you need done. This is insane! From birth, everyone should automatically have all the access one needs without having to pay a dime. Every person should be able to walk into any hospital whenever and get whatever procedure/surgery etc. is needed without paying anything. We certainly could do it if we stopped all these stupid wars that our politicians constantly jack off to while watching us kill innocent men women and children and destroying everything.
Other than greed, is there any good reason we can't shut down all these health insurance companies and just have the govt itself foot the bill for every persons healthcare needs? God forbid rich people only have 50-100K to live off of compared to millions/billions.
Why would I want my taxes to pay for someone that was a lifelong junk food eating , non-excecising, druggie, alcoholic smoker? Same goes for some lady that wants to have a dozen kids?
It makes no sense to pay for someone else poor health choices. Sorry.... the government does not pay...
They forcefully redistribute "people's" aka tax payer's wealth that is created by them.... its ROBBERY and is not the FREE MARKET and is not the principles of which the country was founded upon.
The whole dealing with insurance companies is insane. Heck, even if you are paying for it you still have to pay a deductible and HOPE your insurance covers whatever it is you need done. This is insane! From birth, everyone should automatically have all the access one needs without having to pay a dime. Every person should be able to walk into any hospital whenever and get whatever procedure/surgery etc. is needed without paying anything. We certainly could do it if we stopped all these stupid wars that our politicians constantly jack off to while watching us kill innocent men women and children and destroying everything.
Other than greed, is there any good reason we can't shut down all these health insurance companies and just have the govt itself foot the bill for every persons healthcare needs? God forbid rich people only have 50-100K to live off of compared to millions/billions.
You do realize that the government "foots the bill" for absolutely NOTHING, right? The taxpayers do.
How much more are you willing to pay for taxes to pay for everyone's health care? $6000 a year? $10,000? $25,000?
There's a SLEW of issues. Nationalizing a $4 trillion dollar industry is insane, the entire federal budget is 4 trillion right now. We don't have nearly enough doctors. It would require drastically raising taxes on the middle class. Since medicine is socialized things need to be done "for the greater good" that are just annoying and expensive like "sin" taxes. Anything you do unhealthy or dangerous is going to be heavily taxed. We also don't have a centralized government most governmental decisions are made on a state and local basis.
The whole dealing with insurance companies is insane. Heck, even if you are paying for it you still have to pay a deductible and HOPE your insurance covers whatever it is you need done. This is insane! From birth, everyone should automatically have all the access one needs without having to pay a dime. Every person should be able to walk into any hospital whenever and get whatever procedure/surgery etc. is needed without paying anything. We certainly could do it if we stopped all these stupid wars that our politicians constantly jack off to while watching us kill innocent men women and children and destroying everything.
Other than greed, is there any good reason we can't shut down all these health insurance companies and just have the govt itself foot the bill for every persons healthcare needs? God forbid rich people only have 50-100K to live off of compared to millions/billions.
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake
You do realize that the government "foots the bill" for absolutely NOTHING, right? The taxpayers do.
How much more are you willing to pay for taxes to pay for everyone's health care? $6000 a year? $10,000? $25,000?
toyman is right op, how much are you willing to pay in taxes to support every one health wise? what tax rate do you think it would take on everyone to pay for the more than 320,000,000 people in the US to have health care?
and what are you willing to give up to get that? food? shelter? transportation?
and how much control of your life are you willing to give the government? are you willing to let the government decide what you can eat or drink everyday? where you can go, what you can do, where you can work?
Why would I want my taxes to pay for someone that was a lifelong junk food eating , non-excecising, druggie, alcoholic smoker? Same goes for some lady that wants to have a dozen kids?
It makes no sense to pay for someone else poor health choices. Sorry.... the government does not pay...
They forcefully redistribute "people's" aka tax payer's wealth that is created by them.... its ROBBERY and is not the FREE MARKET and is not the principles of which the country was founded upon.
The WELFARE STATE cannot continue.
My proposal has been to impose a high federal tax on all such unhealthful products--booze, cigs, junk food, etc. We could also legalize all drugs and tax them heavily. Then earmark the revenue to provision of health care.
According to the CDC, 'chronic disease' accounts for 75% of US health care costs, almost all preventable through more healthy lifestyle. The advantage of my proposal is that those who generate the costs, pay for them (via excise taxes).
Let's face it the US electorate demands universal health care. Even Trump said during the campaign that any replacement of Obamacare would have to provide universal coverage.
I would be all for dismantling the welfare state, but in reality, it ain't gonna happen.
The government is not supposed to take care of us. One of the reasons health care costs are high is because the government already controls 2/3rds of health care spending (adding up all the government employees/retirees, Armed Forces/veterans, Medicare/Medicaid, etc.)
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