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Old 07-15-2018, 07:52 PM
 
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Apples and oranges. Those were sanctions that were not (yet) applied. I talked about sanctions that actually were. Namely:


60 Russian diplomats expelled.

Russian consulate closed

Five Russian companies blacklisted.

A couple of dozen of high level Russian government officials and oligarchs that were engaged in cyber attacks on the US blacklisted/sanctioned.

I gave you cites for those. They actually happened. Are you going to deny it? Those sanctions were in fact a lot harsher/stricter than what Obama imposed.
Once again, you are not understanding the situation.

Putting something on hold does not mean rolling back sanctions already in place. Though his team certainly was exploring that possibility and Congress put the kibosh on that.

Congress ordered these sanctions.

Trump put them on hold. IIRC, after a delay he imposed some of the sanctions but not others.

Trump did not, in fact, impose sanctions that were a lot harsher/stricter than Obama.

You can find out all this information with an internet search.

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Old 07-15-2018, 08:50 PM
 
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Once again, you are not understanding the situation.

Putting something on hold does not mean rolling back sanctions already in place. Though his team certainly was exploring that possibility and Congress put the kibosh on that.

Congress ordered these sanctions.

Trump put them on hold. IIRC, after a delay he imposed some of the sanctions but not others.

Trump did not, in fact, impose sanctions that were a lot harsher/stricter than Obama.

You can find out all this information with an internet search.

Wrong.


Were 60 Russian diplomats expelled? Yes.

Was a Russian consulate closed? Yes.

Were five Russian companies blacklisted? Yes.

Were a couple of dozen of high level Russian government officials and oligarchs that were engaged in cyber attacks on the US blacklisted/sanctioned? Yes.

All of these happened. The blacklists are in force right now. All of these were done by Trump.

These actions/sanctions are a lot harsher/stricter than Obama's. You can find out all this information with an internet search.
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Old 07-15-2018, 09:03 PM
 
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Wrong.


Were 60 Russian diplomats expelled? Yes.

Was a Russian consulate closed? Yes.

Were five Russian companies blacklisted? Yes.

Were a couple of dozen of high level Russian government officials and oligarchs that were engaged in cyber attacks on the US blacklisted/sanctioned? Yes.

All of these happened. The blacklists are in force right now. All of these were done by Trump.

These actions/sanctions are a lot harsher/stricter than Obama's. You can find out all this information with an internet search.
It was so easy to find, I'm surprised you had trouble.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics...ed-months-ago/
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Old 07-15-2018, 09:08 PM
 
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It was so easy to find, I'm surprised you had trouble.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics...ed-months-ago/
First of all - can you read? Were the sanctions actually imposed? Or are you claiming that they weren't?


Second - those are even more sanctions, I didn't even mention those. Those were in March. I was referring to these, for example, in April:


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/06/u...oligarchs.html
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Old 07-16-2018, 05:51 AM
 
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Talk about useless...

Opinion pieces from more than two months ago.

Mueller marches on.

tRump sweats while Putin plays him.


No comprehension I see.....


1. Re-read your comment.
2. Re-read my links.
3. Then get back with us...
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Old 07-16-2018, 05:58 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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In that case Obama should be arrested and tried, because he knew they were doing it on his watch and did nothing. Trump wasn’t even in office then.
Obama Choked on Russia Long Before the 2016 Election
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Old 07-16-2018, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Texas
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No comprehension I see.....


1. Re-read your comment.
2. Re-read my links.
3. Then get back with us...
Give it up, chuck.

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Old 07-17-2018, 06:31 AM
 
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Give it up, chuck.


Evidently, you did.....would not expect anything other from ya.
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Old 07-17-2018, 06:33 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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More Russians charged with hacking. If any of them show up to face the charges I'm sure Mueller will use more delaying tactics to keep it from reaching the discovery phase.
The offer has been made, for Mueller and his team to come on over and question the Russians.
What is the hold up?
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Old 07-17-2018, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The offer has been made, for Mueller and his team to come on over and question the Russians.
What is the hold up?
Their rationality.

Where's yours?

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