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Old 07-14-2018, 03:48 PM
 
Location: New Jersey (Europe Sep ‘19)
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I believe religion is a protected class but political ideology isn't.

How would you feel if a business decided to ban Christians? You can bet City-Data would be blowing up with anger and rage.
If Christians were banned, that means majority will be banned; therefore, business will shut down.
Silly comparison.
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Old 07-14-2018, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I believe religion is a protected class but political ideology isn't.

How would you feel if a business decided to ban Christians? You can bet City-Data would be blowing up with anger and rage.
There should be no "protected classes."

It doesn't matter how I, or anyone else, feels about it--except that business owner. The right to discriminate is a human right.
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Old 07-14-2018, 04:04 PM
 
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Muslims are on the whole better educated, less adversarial, less bigoted, less likely disrupt things and upset other patrons etc.....
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Old 07-14-2018, 04:10 PM
 
Location: 53179
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If you ban people from shopping at your store, eating at your restaurant etc..because of their political views, their race, religion, their sexul orientation, you deserve to go out of business. I would go out of my way to avoid those places if I knew ahead of time. It's such a shady thing to do.
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Old 07-14-2018, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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If you ban people from shopping at your store, eating at your restaurant etc..because of their political views, their race, religion, their sexul orientation, you deserve to go out of business. I would go out of my way to avoid those places if I knew ahead of time. It's such a shady thing to do.
It's called letting the free market work. Capitalism 101.
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Old 07-14-2018, 04:30 PM
 
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This lie can be repeated a thousand times and it is no more true than the first time it was said. The owners of the bakery did NOT refuse to sell their product to said homosexuals. They were not going to bake and decorate a WEDDING cake which is against their religious beliefs for two people of the same sex to partake in. The couple was welcome to purchase anything else in the bakery. So your analogy is incorrect.

Sara was refused service because she works for President Trump. She was served appetizers before the ower arrived to tell her to leave.
I am of the belief than any owner of a private business should be allowed to tell anyone that they don't want to serve to leave except for black people if it is because they are black. That is where I draw the line.
That said, I would, if I were a business owner, I would not ask someone to leave if they were gay, straight, black, white, hispanic, liberal, conservative etc, unless they were disrupting the patrons in my shop with either behavior attributed to their beliefs or just because they are rude people.

There is going to be backlash if a business owner refuses service whether they reserve that right or not. It's just the way it is.
So what if your religious beliefs are that lies are a sin? Ms. Sanders has been shown to lie, can you refuse to serve someone who has demonstrably lied if it is against your religious beliefs to lie?
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Old 07-14-2018, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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...can you refuse to serve someone who has demonstrably lied if it is against your religious beliefs to lie?
As a business and/or property owner, it is your right to refuse to serve ANYONE for ANY reason.
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Old 07-14-2018, 04:41 PM
 
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Why should there be?

e.g. In your home you're free to let your dog slobber all over your hands, use the toilet without washing, go play in the dirt then prepare your meal and even spit on your food if you choose.
Are you suggesting cooks in commercial establishments should have similar freedom in preparing customers' meals?
I may free to, but I practice good hygiene so I dont get sick or sicken anyone else.You should realize its that same avoidance of making people sick and not guv regs that keeps restaurants in line. No one is free to sicken people.
You are free to discriminate as to where you eat just as the resturant owner should be free to serve who they wish.

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Old 07-14-2018, 04:44 PM
 
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Why is it okay for businesses to ban trump supporters, but not Muslims?

Because Muslims are part of the democrat’s party base, and unfortunately democrats control most of what goes on in this country — especially with culture..
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Old 07-14-2018, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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This lie can be repeated a thousand times and it is no more true than the first time it was said. The owners of the bakery did NOT refuse to sell their product to said homosexuals. They were not going to bake and decorate a WEDDING cake which is against their religious beliefs for two people of the same sex to partake in. The couple was welcome to purchase anything else in the bakery. So your analogy is incorrect.

Sara was refused service because she works for President Trump. She was served appetizers before the ower arrived to tell her to leave.
I am of the belief than any owner of a private business should be allowed to tell anyone that they don't want to serve to leave except for black people if it is because they are black. That is where I draw the line.
That said, I would, if I were a business owner, I would not ask someone to leave if they were gay, straight, black, white, hispanic, liberal, conservative etc, unless they were disrupting the patrons in my shop with either behavior attributed to their beliefs or just because they are rude people.

There is going to be backlash if a business owner refuses service whether they reserve that right or not. It's just the way it is.
I see that you dragged my reply into your argument. I said nothing about either the bakery or the restaurant. I was commenting on the comparison between business owners and customers, and that is all. A business may, by law, be prohibited from discriminating under certain circumstances, and there is no practical way of forcing customers to patronize all local businesses.
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