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Old 04-02-2008, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Because it's simply not going to happen.

That little piece of paper gets you the tax/legal breaks.
Why have any marriage benefits, why not just have powers of attorney, wills, etc. for everyone.
Why is society supporting breaks for some and not all? Sounds like marriage welfare.
In Florida, anyway, marriage is merely a special form of legal contract. And the contract can be broken by one or both parties for a myriad of reasons, but some of those reasons apply to ANY contract. For instance, someone who is mentally ill cannot legally enter into a marriage contract.

I think that one should be able to declare, and have on record, that benefits like insurance, visitation, etc. should be applied to ONE person. What happens when someone divorces? Those "benefits" don't generally continue, do they? And if they get REMARRIED, the benefits transfer to the new spouse...so what's the issue of being able to designate ANY one person to receive the benefits?
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Old 04-02-2008, 04:47 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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I'll give you one answer against which you have no chance of winning and that is the subjects of PROCREATION verus RECREATION. Sex is 100% recreation for you but, when male and female, the possibility of procreation is involved. That is why you are here. Homosexuals wanting to know why always forget this part of life. There is a difference and those delicious women are the answer.
Your mother was ovulating when she and your father had intercourse, inseminated an egg and SHAZZAM 9 months later a baby - YOU - popped out.
For some couples, there is no interest in PROCREATION, and they do everything in their power to prevent that from happening! Except to stop having RECREATIONAL sex!
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Boise
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who doesnt' have recreational sex? last time I checked the average child in american housholds is 2.3 children.. so what is that.. straight couples having sex 2.3 times in their lifetime?
All I know is that the old procreation rant is tired and unrelated to two people who share their lives together.. besides whats so wrong with gay sex anyway? its only kinky the first time.. trust me.. lol
maybe jesus made me gay so that I wouldn't get knocked up all the time.. cuz lord knows I'd be down at the clinic gettin it sucked out.. and then all the abortion people would be on my case... u just can't win with these people can u? lol
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Old 04-02-2008, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Maybe since the federal government supplys gays with condoms so they wont catch aids I should be exempted from paying taxes.
Please tell me where this happens. Any link, please.
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Old 04-02-2008, 08:18 AM
 
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You are confusing...
You mentioned what you read in the Holy Bible and go on to cite some of it. How do you feel about what is written in the bible about your own kind? Do you believe any of the bible and think that part doesn't apply?
Does your fierce stand for homosexuality blind you to any other views?

You then bring up separation of church and state, which plays a minor part in what you are seeking other than the same sex marriage aspect. You don't mention health care, tax breaks or any other benefits so you are basically asking about same sex marriages and why the legislatures are against them.

Career health benefits are in place for children of a couple. They bring children into the world and raise them. Think it over.


I'll give you one answer against which you have no chance of winning and that is the subjects of PROCREATION verus RECREATION. Sex is 100% recreation for you but, when male and female, the possibility of procreation is involved. That is why you are here. Homosexuals wanting to know why always forget this part of life. There is a difference and those delicious women are the answer.
Your mother was ovulating when she and your father had intercourse, inseminated an egg and SHAZZAM 9 months later a baby - YOU - popped out.

Two men will never produce offspring and neither will two women because one of the pairing is missing the organs that make the fact possible.
I have heard too many stories of "we can adopt a child and raise it between us." Between you is the the wrong word.
Women, yes, Men? No. Nurseries of young animals are often raised by females with little contact from males. Women will fall into common menstrual cycles when in close quarters. Men do nothing of the sort.

As far as wanting to pair with another of your same sex, go ahead.
However, remember that the world is mostly heterosexual. A lot of couples raise children with their morals.

Don't do the following...
-Make public sexual displays in public. A simple kiss, fine.
-Wear your sexual preference on a t-shirt and try to shove it down another's
throat in debate fashion. There is no reason to walk into a room and
announce the fact.
-Don't expect rights for your sexual preference. No other person gets rights
for their's, I never have. Sex is an option and a driver's license is a privilege.
Does anyone see the irony of this coming from a poster named "fishfister"?
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:18 PM
 
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Sarcasm in response to the post above mine

I think the pro creation argument for benefits and tax breaks for married couples (hetrosexual) is legit. The purpose of these benefits is to protect families and spouses who sacrifice their lifetime earning potential to raise children. Theres no reason a childless gay person cant work to support themselves

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Please tell me where this happens. Any link, please.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:23 PM
 
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What about gays with kids?
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:36 PM
 
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Two men will never produce offspring and neither will two women because one of the pairing is missing the organs that make the fact possible.
Actually, thanks to new technologies, that is changing. It's not strictly necessary that a man and woman be present in order to activate the growth cycle of a new zygote.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:49 PM
 
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If its (the gay person) the biological parent there are family courts and laws in place to protect the family and children. In the case of an adopted child of a gay couple which I am against they also benefit. The only person not benefitting is the childless gay spouse who the benefits were not intended for in the first place.



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What about gays with kids?
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Old 04-05-2008, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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who doesnt' have recreational sex? last time I checked the average child in american housholds is 2.3 children.. so what is that.. straight couples having sex 2.3 times in their lifetime?
All I know is that the old procreation rant is tired and unrelated to two people who share their lives together cuz lord knows I'd be down at the clinic gettin it sucked out.. and then all the abortion people would be on my case... u just can't win with these people can u? lol
Heterosexuals like to pretend that they only have sex to reproduce while homosexuals fornicate like jackrabbits in comparison to themselves. Right!

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.. besides whats so wrong with gay sex anyway? its only kinky the first time.. trust me.. lol
maybe jesus made me gay so that I wouldn't get knocked up all the time..
Are you coming onto me?
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