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Old 08-22-2018, 10:41 AM
 
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Hmm no. If he wasn’t president he would have been charged already. He won’t go anywhere but he is guilty of campaign finance violations.
What campaign finance violations is Trump supposedly in violation of?

And Obama was fined for campaign finance violations in 2013, so there is no need to wait until Trump leaves office to pursue any of that - if there actually was such a violation.

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Old 08-22-2018, 10:51 AM
 
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What campaign finance violations is Trump supposedly in violation of?

taking cohen and giuliani's accounts at face value: it was an illegal as an unreported campaign loan that exceeded individual limits that trump authorized.
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:55 AM
 
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Don’t waste my time. You already know the answers. You are just doing political propaganda.

You know exactly what the campaign financial violations are. Using campaign funds to pay the national enquirer. Using money to silence a porn star.

A criminal violation.
You are just making this stuff up. It is you that is thoughtlessly promoting partisan political propaganda.

The payments to stormy daniels did not come from the campaign. If that payment had been paid by the campaign, that would have been a campaign finance violation, as those would have been personal expenses paid by the campaign, which is not allowed, and now you would be screaming bloody murder about that.

As far as the national inquirer stuff, I really have no knowledge of what you are speaking of. But there is no reason that if this was a campaign finance violation that it couldn't or shouldn't be presented as such to the FEC right away, as they are responsible for overseeing these matters.

But that has not happened in either case, has it? Even though Obama was fined and did pay while still in office:

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/...tag=MSF0951a18
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:57 AM
 
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What campaign finance violations is Trump supposedly in violation of?

And Obama was fined for campaign finance violations in 2013, so there is no need to wait until Trump leaves office to pursue any of that - if there actually was such a violation.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...trump-s-orders
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/polit...lks/index.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/michael...ges-1534875978
Cohen pleads guilty, implicates Trump in hush-money scheme to influence election - Chicago Tribune
https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...a-deal-714146/
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:05 AM
 
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Why are any supposed campaign finance violations by not being processed by the FEC, the same way Obama was held accountable by the FEC for his campaign finance violations while he was in office:

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/...tag=MSF0951a18

It is not for lack of interest by you guys? Is it?
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:10 AM
 
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Why are any supposed campaign finance violations by not being processed by the FEC, the same way Obama was held accountable by the FEC for his campaign finance violations while he was in office:

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/...tag=MSF0951a18

It is not for lack of interest by you guys? Is it?
Because there are huge differences between oversights and criminal fraudulent intent.

No, Barack Obama's campaign finance violation wasn't the same thing as Donald Trump's

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...nance-13121851
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:11 AM
 
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Yup, Pence would be more difficult to beat, as I indicated earlier.
Pence was transition head for Trump--he lied about what he knew about Flynn's Russian involvement more than once
They used Pence as the beard to attempt to shield Flynn's real reason for being a security risk
It wasn't lying to Pence that required firing Flynn
It was Flynn's lying to the FBI and his involvement with the Russians and foreign interests he was trying to get money from selling influence==remember why Trump fired Sally Yates--because she was refusing to "go quietly into that good night" and kept trying to bring Flynn's illegal connections to the WH's attention...

Pence is 50/50 to be sitting on the defendant's side of the court room when all the dust settles....
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:12 AM
 
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Because there are huge differences between oversights and criminal fraudulent intent.

No, Barack Obama's campaign finance violation wasn't the same thing as Donald Trump's

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...nance-13121851

Wasting your time/effort in trying to make a dent there...
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:14 AM
 
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Because there are huge differences between oversights and criminal fraudulent intent.

No, Barack Obama's campaign finance violation wasn't the same thing as Donald Trump's

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...nance-13121851
You're wasting your breath.
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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Wasting your time/effort in trying to make a dent there...
I totally agree.
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