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This conservative (me) wants the smallest government possible. I consider a police force a necessity. I also realize that cops are real people not automatons. They have to make split-second decisions in life-or-death situations and sometimes make mistakes in hindsight. If I don’t like the laws that cops are enforcing, I should try to change the law, not blame the cops.
And people should be forced to wear seatbelts for as long as taxpayers are required to contribute to the health care costs of those injured in car crashes.
Laws have no meaning if cops decide not to enforce them. You say change the law but in a democracy it is tyranny of the majority. Everything the romans did to Jesus Christ was legal. We will never escape slavery if we are content with the system that keeps us slaves.
We don’t need a police force who enforce other people’s laws. We need security in a society that will deter crime just by their presence and respond to situations in a calm and deescalating manner. Cops should be treated no different than a regular member of the public. If a cop enters someone’s home and kills an innocent home owner it is murder. If a cop pulls someone over by threat of force on the side of the road because he is unhappy with you not wearing a seat belt, that is kidnapping and terrorism. If a regular member of the public stops a theft, rape or murder that is justified and so would a cop be. But both better be sure a crime was going on. Too often cops assume citizens are criminals when in fact it is the other way around.
This conservative (me) wants the smallest government possible. I consider a police force a necessity. I also realize that cops are real people not automatons. They have to make split-second decisions in life-or-death situations and sometimes make mistakes in hindsight. If I don’t like the laws that cops are enforcing, I should try to change the law, not blame the cops.
And people should be forced to wear seatbelts for as long as taxpayers are required to contribute to the health care costs of those injured in car crashes.
1) Can you tell us what the guy was told to do? I can't find it in the reports.
2) It is not true that if you comply you don't have to worry about getting shot; that is a myth:
Oscar Grant was killed while he was under police control. Amadou Diallo was killed while he was complying with police orders. Philando Castile was killed while he was complying with police orders. Tamir Rice, a 12 year old boy with a toy had no time to comply. He was killed within seconds of receiving police orders. Eric Garner was killed while he was in a banned police chokehold. Akai Gurley, not under arrest in any way, was killed when he unknowingly walked up a stairwell that was occupied by an armed police officer who was on an unrelated investigation. Yvette Smith was killed immediately after opening her door to police responding to a domestic disturbance call. Charles Kinsey was shot when he was on his back on the ground with his hands up. Alton Sterling was killed while he was on his back on the ground being held down by police. Eric Harris, similar situation. Victor White III somehow shot himself to death while handcuffed in the back seat of a police car. Chavis Carter, similar situation. Kenneth Chamberlain was killed when his Life Alert alarm went off accidentally and police responded and he explained and they shot him.
What you replied to was sarcasm because that is the argument made here all the time by a lot of people.
I've said this many times before. If a police officer acts stupidly or criminally and is the cause of a financial settlement to a plaintiff in a lawsuit, here's what should happen.
The money awarded should come directly from the police pension fund. Not from insurance, not from the police budget, not from the community through taxes. Take it from the police pension fund. When current retired officers see their benefits and pensions reduced and current officers see that their future benefits will be reduced to cover this bad officer's conduct, they will police their own ranks and weed out problem or unfit officers. No covering for them.
Late at night, it's even better if you bury them in your neighbor's backyard.
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Now imagine that the exact same story, but with a black home owner. The propaganda networks would have been shedding fake tears for a week, talking non-stop about how they know 100% for sure that it was an act of racism.
How else is that fine officer going to grow and learn if he isn't allowed to make mistakes?
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