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Old 08-05-2018, 11:41 AM
 
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One wonders what you think of what happened to the Boy Scouts?
They were under constant liberal/leftist and LGBTIQQCAPGNGFNBA (yes it is a real acronym, as unreal as it may seem).

Thus it comes as no surprise that America's oldest civil rights group focused on protecting the Constitution, is also under assault by the left.

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The NRA? Oldest civil rights group.?
They re a gun club.
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Old 08-05-2018, 12:30 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Cruz had a mother who couldn't address his issues since he had them from early childhood
Why would anyone with a child that has demonstrated such unstable mental/psychological status allow that child to buy guys??? And he had the guns before his mom passed away
One reason he moved out of her friend's house was because she tried to control his access to his weapons--
He was dangerous enough that someone should have gone to court and had him committed
There is plenty of responsibility to go around--not just the school's involvement in his actions

The NRA has provided the means for more people than Cruz to access weapons under the color of the 2nd amendment--
Your right to own a gun stops when you become a danger to the public much less yourself
The NRA is all about profit for gun manufacturers--not the right to own a gun--
Along with rights come responsibilities
NRA as the premier political voice on gun ownership refuses to accept the responsibility part of gun ownership
Nah, we debunked that one a while ago...
You love to read? Read this link below.

https://www.realclearinvestigations...._shooting.html

You think the NRA was the one responsible for the Promise Program which prevented him catching a Baker act let alone an arrest record? Both which would have prevented him from acquiring firearms legally...

Nah... that was a liberal policy enacted by Chicago transplant school Superintendent Runcie and Broward Sheriff Isreal.

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Broward school Superintendent Robert W. Runcie – a Chicagoan and Harvard graduate with close ties to President Obama and his Education Department – signed an agreement with the county sheriff and other local jurisdictions to trade cops for counseling. Students charged with various misdemeanors, including assault, would now be disciplined through participation in “healing circles,” obstacle courses and other “self-esteem building” exercises.

“We’re not going to continue to arrest our kids,” he added. “Once you have an arrest record, it becomes difficult to get scholarships, get a job, or go into the military."


Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel backed Runcie’s plan to diminish the authority of police in responding to campus crime. A November 2013 video shows him signing the district’s 16-page "collaborative agreement on school discipline,” which lists more than a dozen misdemeanors that can no longer be reported to police, along with five steps police must “exhaust” before even considering placing a student under arrest.
Know what else is difficult to get with an arrest record?
Firearms

How many times were police called out to that scumbags residence leading up to that event? And nothing was done about it?
I didn't see the NRA endorse the Promise program.

Liberal good feels programs were responsible for that one... that circumvented the system from working. That's what you get when you protect criminals under the pretenses of woe is them life will be harder for them if they are criminals. Just let it slide...
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Old 08-05-2018, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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The NRA USED to be non-political then certain people got into the leadership and took that power to turn it into a GOP war machine
From what I understand MOST of the membership of the NRA do not support the partisan viewpoints of its leadership but it is difficult the way voting is constructed to do anything about that

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The NRA was non-political only until the advent of left-wing gun control, starting with the passage of the Gun Control Act (GCA) of 1968. Then it was realized that it was going to be necessary to fight for the 2nd Amendment, which the NRA has done, mostly with success, ever since.


The change actually traces to 1977, at the NRA annual meeting, when it was decided that the NRA should lead on the issue of gun rights.
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Old 08-05-2018, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Ft Myers, FL
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It doesn't matter if the NRA survives. It only matters that the Second Amendment survives, and it will.
An amendment is nothing more than a change.

And even change is subject to change.
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Old 08-05-2018, 08:39 PM
 
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The NRA? Oldest civil rights group.?
They re a gun club.
Well what do you think civil rights mean?

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Old 08-05-2018, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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An amendment is nothing more than a change.

And even change is subject to change.

And making an amendment that changes the constitution can be done, it has been done multiple times: this should help:


Constitutional Amendment Process


https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution


And from the article: There is more to it than this, but here is a big part of it.


"A proposed amendment becomes part of the Constitution as soon as it is ratified by three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States). When the OFR verifies that it has received the required number of authenticated ratification documents, it drafts a formal proclamation for the Archivist to certify that the amendment is valid and has become part of the Constitution. This certification is published in the Federal Register and U.S. Statutes at Large and serves as official notice to the Congress and to the Nation that the amendment process has been completed. "


38 states have to agree to the new proposal, good luck with that part of it.
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Old 08-06-2018, 03:10 AM
 
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Communist Cuomo keeps poking the hornets nest sooner than later he is gonna get stung. The Trump administration backs the NRA as anyone that loves our 2nd amendment should. I personally think the filing is a bit dramatic on purpose to make the courts take action against NY state for blackmailing the NRA and threatening banks etc with doing business with them.
Cuomo didn’t do a damn thing wrong to the NRA. They screwed the pooch on that stupid insurance deal, and they splurged when they dropped multimillions on Republican candidates in 2016. They couldn’t afford it.

And without Obama to stir up the base anymore, the NRA can’t find a reason to whip up hysteria.
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Old 08-06-2018, 04:35 AM
 
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The NRA USED to be non-political then certain people got into the leadership and took that power to turn it into a GOP war machine
From what I understand MOST of the membership of the NRA do not support the partisan viewpoints of its leadership but it is difficult the way voting is constructed to do anything about that

If you want to know if the NRA leadership is afraid it has been caught in the pinchers of Mueller's investigation into Russian hacking with the Maria Butina case look no further than Ollie North become the president w/o notice or a vote of the membership---
That decision was tremendously revealing of the panic and the culpability of those within the echelons of power in the NRA
Those "dirty old white guys" have gotten involved in some Russian hanky-panky and are trying to close the barn door---but likely too late...
And of course the person they choose as their new face of honesty is a guy who was indicted/tried/convicted of breaking Federal laws selling guns to contras--who is only out of prison because of having his convictions overturned because of another example of partisan politics ....
All kinds of ugly spread all over North who should be slapped every time he calls himself a patriot--
He was a patsy, a willing patsy albeit, who was as partisan as they come so in that way he is totally appropriate as a shill for the NRA...
"then certain people got into the leadership and took that power to turn it into a GOP war machine"

I hate to burst your bubble but, contrary to what MANY believe , MANY DEMS belong to the NRA.

"From what I understand MOST of the membership "

From what you posted before I wouldn't believe anything you say.


How may REAL members have you to talked to?
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Old 08-06-2018, 04:41 AM
 
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Strange.

Also strange is the sudden IRS decision to allow the NRA hide its donor list.

"to allow the NRA hide its donor list."


ALL PRIVATE organizations can "hide" their donor lists.
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Old 08-06-2018, 04:45 AM
 
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And they should be apolitical too, but this thread is discussing the NRA, no?

We get THIS type of response very often when we show what the dems do and have done in similar circumstances and don't want to talk about it.


It's called the "double standard"
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