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Old 09-22-2018, 07:32 AM
 
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The black mobilization is probably the reason Obama won.

But who would black people mobilize around today? So far, the DNC has not promoted anyone the black community would view as a gamechanger.
While the DNC has not done much, I'm not seeing the RNC trying harder to get more Black votes. Alot of Blacks still don't have much faith in Republicans these days.
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:35 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Here is the thing. The Rasmussen poll is very biased and is very silent about its methodology...........
That's just absolute nonsense and makes the rest of your post meaningless.
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While the DNC has not done much, I'm not seeing the RNC trying harder to get more Black votes. Alot of Blacks still don't have much faith in Republicans these days.
I don't think that will change any time soon. Political affiliations are very slow to change.
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:11 PM
 
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That's just absolute nonsense and makes the rest of your post meaningless.
Methodology - Rasmussen Reports®
Sorry, dude, but that is not a reveal of survey methodology. All they're talking about it the survey technology and not all of that.

The important facts missing are how the surveyed sample was selected, what the survey samples actually were (absolute numbers of specific demographic groups), what the actual questions were, and what the raw data (answers to the questions).
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:39 PM
 
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If Blacks are ""warming to Trump" maybe it's because their feet are held over fires...
Any blacks that think Trump is going to improve their lives and come out to support Trump are to be pitied...
Unless they are willing to ignore everything Trump and the GOP have done to suppress black voters, denegrate blacks in various walks of life for being politically active against elements like police violence, gun violence, unjust legal/court practices, they aren't being honest with themselves about Trump and the GOP's impact on minorities
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:43 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Sorry, dude, but that is not a reveal of survey methodology. All they're talking about it the survey technology and not all of that.

The important facts missing are how the surveyed sample was selected, what the survey samples actually were (absolute numbers of specific demographic groups), what the actual questions were, and what the raw data (answers to the questions).
Well, if it makes you feel better to believe that Rasmussen is biased, then that's what you'll have to live with.
Latest poll shows 49% support. That's enough to walk away with they keys to The White House again.
In addition, Rasmussen finds black support for Trump at 36%.
All good news, to me.
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If Blacks are ""warming to Trump" maybe it's because their feet are held over fires...
Any blacks that think Trump is going to improve their lives and come out to support Trump are to be pitied...
Unless they are willing to ignore everything Trump and the GOP have done to suppress black voters, denegrate blacks in various walks of life for being politically active against elements like police violence, gun violence, unjust legal/court practices, they aren't being honest with themselves about Trump and the GOP's impact on minorities
vs being bought and paid for on the democratic plantation. So prove blacks or anyone elses lives improved under that disgrace Obama. Not the 1 percent or the welfare leeches mind you but the working stiff.

All that garbage about the GOP is nothing more than than garbage. The GOP isn't the one encouraginbg blacks to abandon their kids which causes the rate of crime by blacks to go up since they are in single parent families. And that goes for all groups. Children from single parent families, no matter which group, will be less educated, make less money, and commit a higher percentage of crimes than those raised in 2 parent families. Keep throwing money at people and they'll take it, they wont better themselves but they'll take the money.
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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While the DNC has not done much, I'm not seeing the RNC trying harder to get more Black votes. Alot of Blacks still don't have much faith in Republicans these days.
As long as both parties are for big government not much will change. At least the conservatives are on the right track but they are outnumbered by the greedy progressives on both sides. Less government is more.
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Old 10-06-2018, 06:35 PM
 
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As long as both parties are for big government not much will change. At least the conservatives are on the right track but they are outnumbered by the greedy progressives on both sides. Less government is more.
There are many Republicans who are for big government. While some claim to be for smaller government, it is only in the cases where it is in their favor. Both parties are big government to a certain extent. It just depends on what the issue is. Republicans might want states to work out social issues, but will support big government on things like the military, prison, and corporate safety nets. Democrats are more likely to support programs like health care and certain social issues.
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Old 10-06-2018, 06:37 PM
 
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Sorry, dude, but that is not a reveal of survey methodology. All they're talking about it the survey technology and not all of that.

The important facts missing are how the surveyed sample was selected, what the survey samples actually were (absolute numbers of specific demographic groups), what the actual questions were, and what the raw data (answers to the questions).
Thank you for pointing this out in more details.
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Old 10-06-2018, 06:39 PM
 
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Well, if it makes you feel better to believe that Rasmussen is biased, then that's what you'll have to live with.
Latest poll shows 49% support. That's enough to walk away with they keys to The White House again.
In addition, Rasmussen finds black support for Trump at 36%.
All good news, to me.
Makes him feel better? If the Rasmussen poll is shown to be biased and their ways of getting data kind of murky, then there is a problem of reliability. The Rasmussen poll isn't that reliable.
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