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Then I'm sorry other people have to pay your insurance claim every time you file one.
Insurance is voluntary, now that Obamacare fine has been abolished. One is not required to have insurance, unlike how one is required to pay taxes by threat of asset seizure and/or incarceration. Charity for the poor should be voluntary, as well.
Interesting to note that before the Obamacare mandate, many people and companies self-insured for most health care expenses and some supplemented with much less costly catastrophic policies (premiums determined through a risk assessment).
Really?
Some of the Libertarian/Far Rights on here seem to have the compassion of a crocodile.
The way some of the posters are A-OK with people dying because it might cost them a few cents,
or blaming people because they get sick....it is obnoxious and I am sorry it is totally devoid of any human compassion whatsoever.
I see now why the one Poster from the UK started the thread talking about how mean and hateful most Americans are to one another - This thread and some of the others prove him right.....I am sorry people but you can't even put a price on human life. And it is ridiculous just to opt for more suffering and pain for other humans - because you seem to lack one single empathy Gene in your DNA Make up. (You should check that out...it is usually a sign of mental illness like being a Sociopath or Psychopath...just saying.)
From studies, it looks like it would even cost less to go to single payer/Universal Care...
because you are cutting out the middle men - the Insurance companies. It also gives you more leverage to make the large pharmaceutical Companies lower their prices.
It's worked for all the other Countries....it would work here too, with the right amount of oversight.
And don't throw the Socialist Word at me....England, Ireland, Australia, Japan, Canada etc all have this and they are not socialist countries at all.
You can reduce costs, save lives, save money and you don't want to do it, because "you are being robbed?" Well, they have to have some taxes because you have to pay for the Military,
the Police Departments, the Fire Departments, Infrastructure, Education....It is all part of living in a civilized modern society. And a civilized society doesn't sit around and let people die, when they are capable of saving their lives....only uncivilized barbarians would do that.
Charge everyone a flat tax. That way everyone contributes.
Bill Maher (annual salary: $10 million, net worth $100 million) could give all his money to charities to meet the poor's perceived unmet needs. He doesn't. He's a hypocrite.
And the US population has an even higher rate of obesity.
Which cant explain the costs in America anyway. Surgery on obese people can be dangerous so they think it is medically warranted, they dont do it because they hate people who are overweight like yourself.
When you were told New Zealand had the same share of diabetic and pre-diabetic people as America and one of the lowest health care costs in the developed world, you just ignored it and started blaming overweight people again.
Unfortunately I feel her pain. I went to get my prescription filled this weekend. My insulin was going to be more than $500. Another med that I need was more than $200. And the pain meds that I need that I could not get my doctor to write a script for because some other person somewhere that isn't me might take someone else's pain meds -- not mine, mind you -- probably would have cost a lot too.
If someone would have the balls to challenge the govt on this, if it ever got to the supreme court, the Govt DOES NOT have the right to restrict access and criminalize certain drugs. Some have said this is why the Feds are not going after any states on the marijuana issue, they know if it ever goes to the SC, they will loose control over ALL drug laws.
With the pain pills being hard to get, you can blame the DEA for this, and surprisingly it happened during Obamas term! You see, the DEA is in bed with the drug cartels, they must ensure that all drugs remain as illegal as possible, so the cartels do not have any competition, they are sort of like the cartels lobbying and enforcement arm in the US, if you go back and look at laws the DEA had a hand in creating or changing they all benefit the drug cartels ability to do business in the US.
"the Govt DOES NOT have the right to restrict access and criminalize certain drugs."
If you are going to make a claim, as they say, "back it up, or SHUT UP"!
Which cant explain the costs in America anyway. Surgery on obese people can be dangerous so they think it is medically warranted, they dont do it because they hate people who are overweight like yourself.
When you were told New Zealand had the same share of diabetic and pre-diabetic people as America and one of the lowest health care costs in the developed world, you just ignored it and started blaming overweight people again.
New Zealand's top income tax bracket starts at an income of $70,000. Do you think Americans would agree to being in the top US tax bracket if their income were $75,000? Right now, the US top tax bracket doesn't begin until an income of $500,000 (that's over 7 times New Zealand's threshold income for the top tax bracket). We'd have to drop that, significantly, and bring that more in line with other developed countries' top tax bracket thresholds. Make our income tax brackets MUCH more flat, like other countries.
New Zealand's top income tax bracket starts at an income of $70,000
LOL I see you want to change the topic since you were embarrassed about your claim that we cant have single payer because we have too many diabetic people. New Zealand with the same number of diabetic and pre-diabetic people pay far less in taxes for their national health care system than we pay in taxes currently for our broken for-profit system. In addition we pay huge amounts in private costs, including employer health care costs. Thats how corrupt and inefficient our system is. No need to attack the diabetic, even though you hate them.
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