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LOL I see you want to change the topic since you were embarrassed about your claim that we cant have single payer because we have too many diabetic people.
It's that, all the obesity, the huge additional health care costs consequent of both, plus the fact that Americans won't agree to pay the taxes they'd have to pay to fund it. I went through this in the other thread:
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If someone pays $4000 more in taxes and suddenly no longer have to pay $8000 a year in private health care costs, thats a big win.
Won't happen. The $3.2 trillion/year cost is approximately $10,000/year per person. That's $40,000/year for a family of 4. They won't pay it.
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The upper echelons of society will pay a lot more than $4000 in extra taxes per year, thats why they are so against it. They would just pay out of pocket for the health care they need anyway, only the peasants need insurance.
The entire income of the top 1% (income beginning at $480,930) is $2.1 trillion. You could tax them at 100% and STILL fall way short. Not going to happen. There are 140 million other US 1040 tax filers who would then have to pay the other $1.1 trillion in taxes. That's an average of an $8,000 tax increase per filer. Not going to happen. 45% of them don't pay any federal income tax now as it is, and 27% of them pay neither federal income tax nor FICA (due to refundable tax credits).
You've just been exposed as clueless when shown how utterly wrong you are about the diabetics. When proven wrong you just try to change the topic and go ranting about something else.
Medical RESEARCH costs tens of millions with NO guarantee of its success.
It takes 5 YEARS for the FDA to approve a medicine.
Then your patent only last 7 years
You want it, you have to PAY for it, it's that simple, that's life.
But it you want to pay LESS or it, you can live in Europe, Israel, Canada and many many other places - most of which have booming pharma industries and therefore have the same costs!
Good one!
And, speaking of Fake News, where did you get 7 years...sources I looked at said almost 3X that....
"The patent protection for a brand-name drug is usually 20 years from the date of submission of the patent. Not all brand-name drugs have a generic counterpart."
So, let's summarize. You are wrong. You are wrong......is it do difficult to make a valid point without BS?
You've just been exposed as clueless when shown how utterly wrong you are about the diabetics.
Good grief. I'm posting verified fact after verified fact, and you think I'm the clueless one in this discussion? There's a name for that belief: delusional.
Bill Maher (annual salary: $10 million, net worth $100 million) could give all his money to charities to meet the poor's perceived unmet needs. He doesn't. He's a hypocrite.
Yes, these are so factual and relevant........
Why not talk about Rick Scott and 100's of million in fines for billion in Medicare Fraud? Oh, inconvenient truth, I guess!
Everyone who has insurance has it voluntarily. No one is required to have insurance.
I have to have automobile insurance in Kentucky. It is the law.
How is that any different?
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Charge everyone a flat tax. That way everyone contributes.
I think that is a good idea...I have no problem with that...with the exception of people who are millionaires/billionaires - I think they should pay a few percent more.
Good grief. I'm posting verified fact after verified fact, and you think I'm the clueless one in this discussion? There's a name for that belief: delusional.
But you dont understand the stuff you post as you claim that the reason its so expensive in America is because of the diabetics and that other countries dont have that problem. When you're shown that New Zealand has the same share of diabetics as America, and one of the lowest health care costs in the developed world, you just flee the scene and start ranting about something else. Its ridiculous.
I have to have automobile insurance in Kentucky. It is the law.
How is that any different?
No, you don't. Only those who own an auto need it. A lot of people don't own autos.
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I think that is a good idea...I have no problem with that...with the exception of people who are millionaires/billionaires - I think they should pay a few percent more.
No. They already will be paying more because they spend more. Flat national VAT tax, like other developed countries have. If they can pay it, so can we.
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