It's cheaper for them if we die (prison, constitutional, workers)
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Everyone who has insurance has it voluntarily. No one is required to have insurance.
You're a fan of externalities, are you? Let's imagine for a second we turn the USA into the Galt's Gulch about which you fantasize and all government but Randian minimalism remains in our state. When those millions of people without insurance get sick or injured, whom do you think will pay for their care? Whom do you think pays for their care, right now?
Their national VAT taxes are in addition to their income tax
Their payroll taxes overwhelmingly fund their health care systems. They pay $4000 per person per year for their national health care systems, give or take. We pay $5000 in taxes right now for health care, in addition to almost $6000 in private premiums and out of pocket expenses. No country has a system like you want where health care is simply funded by a VAT tax.
One day people will realize that their socialist hero countries dont spend 10s of billions, or even trillions of dollars on military/defense, and in fact they rely on us for that. So one could actually say we are subsidizing their health care by freeing up dollars (them spending limited money on defense / military) for them to spend on such things for their tiny countries.
One day people will realize that their socialist hero countries dont spend 10s of billions, or even trillions of dollars on military/defense, and in fact they rely on us for that. So one could actually say we are subsidizing their health care by freeing up dollars (them spending limited money on defense / military) for them to spend on such things for their tiny countries.
Trump just jacked up the military budget by another 80 billion in addition to the $640 billion we already spend. Not because the "socialist hero countries" demanded it. The military industrial complex didnt even demand it. But its free money for them. The "socialist hero countries" in Europe have a military budget that is five times higher than Russia's. Its silly to think they need to spend far more than that. Its just a scam by vested interests who benefit from corruption.
One day people will realize that their socialist hero countries dont spend 10s of billions, or even trillions of dollars on military/defense, and in fact they rely on us for that. So one could actually say we are subsidizing their health care by freeing up dollars (them spending limited money on defense / military) for them to spend on such things for their tiny countries.
We could stop doing that, and spend all that money on something more useful. How many times do we really need to blow up the planet to defend ourselves?
We could stop doing that, and spend all that money on something more useful. How many times do we really need to blow up the planet to defend ourselves?
You are right, we COULD stop doing that, but all we do is keep electing people on both sides of the aisle that think we need to spend kazillions on our military. Its put us into the biggest financial debt this world has ever seen, so no, it makes zero sense at this point to go down the socialized health care path until we can straighten that out. The argument that we are "the richest country" is just absurd...but if we ever do get to that point, then sure, free everything for everyone.
You are right, we COULD stop doing that, but all we do is keep electing people on both sides of the aisle that think we need to spend kazillions on our military. Its put us into the biggest financial debt this world has ever seen, so no, it makes zero sense at this point to go down the socialized health care path until we can straighten that out. The argument that we are "the richest country" is just absurd...but if we ever do get to that point, then sure, free everything for everyone.
In fact, we can not afford to NOT go down the single payer path for health care. Every other country pay 9-12% of GDP on health care expenses through a national health care system, we pay 18% and will reach over 20% soon. By 2027, the average family of four is looking at average health care costs of $70 000 per year, up from the current $43 000 per year. The current model is not sustainable and those who reject paying less, getting more and have everyone covered with a single payer system like the rest of the developed world just carry the water of the corrupt insurance system we have now.
Why should one person fund all of America's health care program. It's the duty of all American citizens to do their role.
Haven't you been reading this thread? Many on here want it for free. They want others to pay for them. That's why we can't have those generous government-provided services here. Too many Americans think they shouldn't have to pay.
For example, 45% of our country's income tax filers pay no federal income tax at all, but still get government-provided services. 27% of them pay no social security or Medicare (health care for age 65+) tax, either, due to refundable tax credits. How are we supposed to fund health care for 325 million people when only about 78 million pay $5 or more in federal income tax? Yes, that's 5 dollars.
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Where do you get your insurance? Through your employer? You scream about "slavery" but I hope you realize that you're a slave to employment just to have health insurance.
Why do people say that when it's true in only some cases? Can't anyone think outside of the box? I retired early, closed my business, and laid off my employees because I was sick and tired of always being reamed for high taxes while so many fools on here think they shouldn't have to contribute. F--- it! I went Galt. I self-insure for most health care expenses and buy a catastrophic policy through a professional organization.
Anyway, if I was still working, health insurance would be included in any compensation package I negotiated for myself. Agreeing to the terms of compensation isn't slavery.
In fact, we can not afford to NOT go down the single payer path for health care. Every other country pay 9-12% of GDP on health care expenses through a national health care system, we pay 18% and will reach over 20% soon. By 2027, the average family of four is looking at average health care costs of $70 000 per year, up from the current $43 000 per year. The current model is not sustainable and those who reject paying less, getting more and have everyone covered with a single payer system like the rest of the developed world just carry the water of the corrupt insurance system we have now.
Friendly advice...stop wasting your key strokes on me...I literally never read one word of what you write.
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