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They are basically kicking their fans, nation, and sport in the nads. Personally, I don't really care. They are overpaid for doing something that is really not all that important when you think about it. The garbage collector is more important to the functioning of society. I occasionally watch a baseball game. That's the extent of my sports experience. And hoisting the middle finger (that's what it boils down to) hasn't been an issue with MLB as of yet. If and when it is, well, there will be no more occasional baseball games in my life.
I keep hearing phrases like "well paid athlete" being thrown around by those criticizing the protesters. Is the amount they are paid even relevant? Why do some people seem to have an issue with someone who is well paid protesting injustices that they perceive to be being inflicted on others? I can't wrap my mind around that attitude.
What is the income cutoff in America for being able to protest perceived injustices against others?
I see. Period.
Just in case you are not around, am I allowed drink beer? Period.
Eat chocolate? Peroid.
When I want an opinion please do not hesitate to provide one for me. Period.
Holy crap.
Period.
Of course you can drink all the beer and eat all the chocolate you choose to. Who said anything about that?
No, what's really disrespectful is people who try to curtail the freedom of speech of others.
What's also very bizarre is the way that so many people forget that kneeling is in fact a traditional sign of respect.
Time and place, time and place. Sporting events meet neither.
It's not like these over privileged over paid athletes can't get camera time pretty much whenever they want to make whatever statement they want. To expand on what the OP has said, these athletes could group together along with like thinking others to create one hell of a lobbying group, one with enough funds and voices to make one hell of a racket for change OUTSIDE of their jobs, in other words ON THEIR OWN TIME.
Many vets state clearly that they risked their lives and lost their buddies fighting for the right for those players to kneel.
We have far more dangerous-to-our-democracy issues than whether football players kneel or not.
Several come to mind, but no need to derail the thread.
So they have the RIGHT to, that doesn't mean it's RIGHT to. I've got the right to do a lot of things but that doesn't make it right to do them.
I've got the right to do what Westborough Baptist does by protesting in a vile way at military funerals but is that the right thing to do?
You've got the right to have a big poster with the "N" word in big block letters and walk through black neighborhoods, is it therefore "right" to do it?
I keep hearing phrases like "well paid athlete" being thrown around by those criticizing the protesters. Is the amount they are paid even relevant? Why do some people seem to have an issue with someone who is well paid protesting injustices that they perceive to be being inflicted on others? I can't wrap my mind around that attitude.
What is the income cutoff in America for being able to protest perceived injustices against others?
And how did it come to this?
The American public likes competitive anything. These professional athletes, any kind, have been revered since 6th grade if they were good at a sport. The American public funded through taxes and bonds, their education and training. We have built sports stadiums with bond money paid by hotel and car taxes. In my town, if those taxes don't throw off enough money to pay the interest on the bonds, the county takes what they need from the toll road fees. Don't get me started on the owners. Talk about subsidizing rich guys.
Our culture created this institution. Now some of the idols, instead of bowing to us for their pay, are biting us in the arse.
Put a white car and a black car on the road. Tell the white car it can go 65 MPH, the black, 40MPH. Comes 1964 and you tell the black car it can go 65, too. Will it ever catch up?
My momma saw people lynched. I had to pay poll tax. My kids drank from colored water fountains. Instead getting into a pissing contest about trivial stuff, figure out how to make us all better citizens.
They are basically kicking their fans, nation, and sport in the nads. Personally, I don't really care. They are overpaid for doing something that is really not all that important when you think about it. The garbage collector is more important to the functioning of society. I occasionally watch a baseball game. That's the extent of my sports experience. And hoisting the middle finger (that's what it boils down to) hasn't been an issue with MLB as of yet. If and when it is, well, there will be no more occasional baseball games in my life.
It's a good point and it shows how skillful Trump is in manipulating the public and the media. He blows this up to make it seem like this "issue" really matters. The same way he made some people think that building a wall between the US and Mexico actually matters. Just a cheap trick to wind up his base and get them to post rants like the OP.
So they have the RIGHT to, that doesn't mean it's RIGHT to. I've got the right to do a lot of things but that doesn't make it right to do them.
I've got the right to do what Westborough Baptist does by protesting in a vile way at military funerals but is that the right thing to do?
You've got the right to have a big poster with the "N" word in big block letters and walk through black neighborhoods, is it therefore "right" to do it?
The point that I was trying to make was very simple.
The correct way to exersise one's rights is not ridgid. You know your correct way and I know mine, and they are likely to be different from time to time. I am totally cool with that, but it appears several involved in this thread are not. I just heard the " because I said so" defense. My sneaky mom used to use that one on me. When I was six years old or so. I can remember clearly ...
A six year old me - "Mom, I want a mini bike.'
My mom - "No."
Me - " Why not?"
Mom - " Because I said so."
Me, to myself - "Damn she's good."
You clearly offered a reasoning for your opinion. I still disagree but can appriciate anything other than
" my opinion is fact, end of discussion".
So they have the RIGHT to, that doesn't mean it's RIGHT to. I've got the right to do a lot of things but that doesn't make it right to do them.
I've got the right to do what Westborough Baptist does by protesting in a vile way at military funerals but is that the right thing to do?
You've got the right to have a big poster with the "N" word in big block letters and walk through black neighborhoods, is it therefore "right" to do it?
We are comparing Westboro Baptist shenanigans with people kneeling to protest civil rights violations during the playing of the anthem...in a country with a horrid tradition of racial injustice. The abolitionists used to fly the flag upside down...should they have found a different way to protest.
If we are in the business of firing those who disagree with us...tgen I would fire anyone who interfered with their right to protest...you know, one of the major things the anthem symbolizes.
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