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Old 10-07-2018, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Just an honest question from a person who has no stake in this fight (male).

How many states will make abortion totally or at least very hard to get once Roe vs. Wade gets overturned? Will it be instant, or gradual? (laws having to be passed and so forth.) My guess this will take place at the end of the current term, which is June of next year - seven months away.

I don't believe this talk of "stare decisis" and a "gradual" transformation of the Supreme Court. With five solid conservatives in there, it's full speed ahead to accomplish what the conservatives have struggled to do for decades - reverse the fateful Roe vs Wade decision of 1973. Cases are already in the pipeline to accomplish this objective.

Another question - assuming that I'm right and this indeed happens, how will this affect the 2020 elections? Great joy and celebration for the Republicans, as they roll on to historic victories in all three branches of government? Or will the tide turn and the Blue Wave engulfs all? (except for the S.C., of course!)

 
Old 10-07-2018, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Just an honest question from a person who has no stake in this fight (male).

How many states will make abortion totally or at least very hard to get once Roe vs. Wade gets overturned? Will it be instant, or gradual? (laws having to be passed and so forth.) My guess this will take place at the end of the current term, which is June of next year - seven months away.

I don't believe this talk of "stare decisis" and a "gradual" transformation of the Supreme Court. With five solid conservatives in there, it's full speed ahead to accomplish what the conservatives have struggled to do for decades - reverse the fateful Roe vs Wade decision of 1973. Cases are already in the pipeline to accomplish this objective.

Another question - assuming that I'm right and this indeed happens, how will this affect the 2020 elections? Great joy and celebration for the Republicans, as they roll on to historic victories in all three branches of government? Or will the tide turn and the Blue Wave engulfs all? (except for the S.C., of course!)
Let's all calm down> Roe versus Wade will, most likely not be overturned. If it is I have no idea how many states will end the policy. I don't many will let it stop the procedure.
 
Old 10-07-2018, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
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If Roe vs. Wade is overturned, good luck ever getting an abortion in a southern state! That area isn't called the Bible Belt for nothing.

I have no idea what's going to happen in 2020. It's my greatest hope that the young adults will be out in force to vote for the rights that older white Americans seem determined to destroy with glee.
 
Old 10-07-2018, 06:39 AM
 
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I, nor any one else knows. It is somewhat a hyperbolized fear in my opinion. Though, if it were to happen that a case came before the Supreme Court and the ruling went 5-4, leading to opening states deciding. It would be a perfect federalist's decision, with the state's taking their rightful roles in a federalist system of government.

Not any different then California, for instance attempting to prove that it is a state's right to control or not its laws or lack of laws on immigration. I certainly do not agree with the stance, but I am not fearful. Allowed to operate fully and properly, the Constitutional Republic of The United States will work.
 
Old 10-07-2018, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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The holy grail of liberals - abortion (and btw I am pro choice). I don't believe Roe v Wade will ever be overturned. Judge Kavanaugh even alluded to this during the hearing. The case has precedent upon precedent and it would take a seriously grounded legal argument for it to even come before the Supremes.
 
Old 10-07-2018, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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For God's sake, it's not getting overturned. Who fed you liberals this garbage?
 
Old 10-07-2018, 06:48 AM
 
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Oh stop.
Roe vs Wade will NOT be overturned by the SC and you Dems know it.
You use this to stir up anger, division and fear.....shame on you Dems
 
Old 10-07-2018, 06:49 AM
 
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Good grief, have you nothing better to do on a Sunday morning than start another hysteria-filled “what if?” thread?
Ridiculously sad that you have nothing else to ponder over.
 
Old 10-07-2018, 07:06 AM
 
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I rather doubt that the Court would 'overturn' Roe v. Wade, since the decision was based on the right to privacy, and hundreds of subsequent lower court decisions cited Roe, regarding the right to privacy, in many areas other than abortion rights.



More than likely, the Court would uphold laws making the obtaining of abortion more restrictive, such as the requirement that the physician performing the abortion have hospital privileges within 20 miles of the clinic. Such can be done without disturbing the underlying rational of the decision.



I believe that a number of states (mainly southern) already have laws in place that would outlaw abortion, at any stage and for any reason, that would become effective with the Court overruling Roe.



Indeed, I once read that one or two states have such 'prospective' laws banning the use of alcohol within its borders, should the 21st Constitutional Amendment (that overruled the 18th Prohibition amendment) be itself overturned (I believe said prospective laws were passed soon after the 21st Amendment passed, many years ago; whether the legislatures of said states still feel that way, is unknown).
 
Old 10-07-2018, 07:08 AM
 
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If Roe vs. Wade is overturned, good luck ever getting an abortion in a southern state! That area isn't called the Bible Belt for nothing.

I have no idea what's going to happen in 2020. It's my greatest hope that the young adults will be out in force to vote for the rights that older white Americans seem determined to destroy with glee.

So killing the unborn is considered a moral right now? I have news for you. It's not just older white Americans that are pro-life.
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