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In some urbanized areas of the Aztec and Inca empires, native Americans suffered 90% loss of life due to old world diseases. It is probably the greatest proportional loss of life ever for a civilization.
Do you blame Columbus for this?
I think that the collapse of native civilizations was going to happen regardless because those populations had not built up immunities and they could not have remained separate forever.
The natives were hardly welcoming for instance the Iroquois were renowned for their cruelty towards other human beings. Scholars know that they ruthlessly tortured war prisoners and that they were cannibals; in the Algonquin tongue the word Mohawk actually means "flesh-eater."
Indian tribes attacked and killed each other, and throughout the centuries lots of cruelty went on however it now seems that the only people to blame are people like Columbus or indeed white males.
People of other cultures can be just if not more cruel and this has been the case throughout history, indeed a lot of tribes in Africa still hate each other, the Muslims don't even like each other, the South American tribes have been replaced by organised crime but are equally cruel and in Asia there is a streak of cruelty that has been evident throughout the centuries, including during WW2 and under Mao's leadership of China.
Leftwing liberals can revise history to meet their agenda, but there have been inhuman acts carried out by many races, by women, by lots of religions (and religous wars) and such acts are not confined to white males.
What happened during Columbus's time is not well documented and for people to jump to all kinds of conclusions and blame him for numerous things is rather pathetic and to be honest setting foot on foreign shores at the time was often dangerous and the natives would often attack and kill people.
Its worth pointing out that a lot of native tribes allied with the Europeans against other tribes who had been slaughtering them and kidnapping them for years. This idea that all native American tribes united against Europeans is fantasy. The Aztecs, Incas etc were hated and despised for good reason. They ripped the hearts out of children they had kidnapped in grand ceremonies in front of thousands of spectators...
In some urbanized areas of the Aztec and Inca empires, native Americans suffered 90% loss of life due to old world diseases. It is probably the greatest proportional loss of life ever for a civilization.
Do you blame Columbus for this?
I think that the collapse of native civilizations was going to happen regardless because those populations had not built up immunities and they could not have remained separate forever.
Of course not. The whole idea of Columbus killing natives is bogus reinventing of history. Columbus took a few natives back to Europe with him because the queen of Spain demanded payments and natives in exchange for funding his voyage. He traded with natives and gave them provisions to be nice. Germ theory didn’t even come along until 400 years later. The notion that Columbus was engaging in some type of biological warfare is so far fetched that only leftist would believe it.
If you have the flu and you spread it to your neighbor, have you engaged in biological warfare? Understand?
In some urbanized areas of the Aztec and Inca empires, native Americans suffered 90% loss of life due to old world diseases. It is probably the greatest proportional loss of life ever for a civilization.
Do you blame Columbus for this?
I think that the collapse of native civilizations was going to happen regardless because those populations had not built up immunities and they could not have remained separate forever.
Actually, there were no native Americans. The Amerindians migrated here over the Bering Strait just as the Europeans migrated here. Everyone had a right to migrate here back then as there were no immigration laws back then nor any established governments.
Actually, there were no native Americans. The Amerindians migrated here over the Bering Strait just as the Europeans migrated here. Everyone had a right to migrate here back then as there were no immigration laws back then nor any established governments.
This seems like a BS legal doctrine. The establishment of borders and states does not end the "right of conquest", which is a rationalization for military faits accompli.
The "right of conquest" is always operative, and people who wish to continue their way of life should be ready to defend themselves. I'm not justifying conquest; I'm saying it's never going to end so you had better adapt to that reality.
The popular myth that all native american tribes were just nomadic bands of ultra peacenik hippies who smoked their peace pipes and did nothing more than subsistence level hunting-gathering is absurd. Even the NY Time wrote about the pre-Columbian health decline of native American tribes that predates the commonly cited "European plague" - Don't Blame Columbus for All the Indians' Ills
Point being, the Europeans didn't "bring" warfare and sickness to North America. It was already here.
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