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Old 10-17-2018, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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She said she has Cherokee and Delaware ancestry. She has some sort of American Indian ancestry. She did not say she was a member of either tribe, that she was a citizen of either nation, etc. In fact this whole notion of claiming ancestry now means you are a citizen is a novel argument being used specifically against Senator Warren.

I have Irish ancestry on my mother's side. That does not mean I am claiming to be "Irish" of any certain percentage, it certainly does not mean I am trying to claim citizenship in Ireland.

I have a student whose great great grandfather was born in Japan and immigrated here long before most Asians did. His family story is dominated by that particular ancestor (and his last name is Japanese) and his unique story despite the fact that all of the other ancestors have been white. Does that mean this student can't take pride in his family history? Is he not "Japanese" enough to mention that he has Japanese ancestry? Is he trying to be treated as a minority despite his blonde hair and blue eyes by not adopting a name more representative of his ethnicity?
A good comeback, but she claimed more than just Native American ancestry while at Harvard... Wasn't she the first person/female of color that held some type of position there? Also, I would like to see the leading text to her recipes relating to "Pow Wow Chow." I'm pretty sure her claims to NA bloodline was a lot stronger than just some "spoken" pride to some NA ancestry.

Sorry, if you're around 99.9% White, you're White... Period.

Btw, a great story about your student with some early Japanese ancestry. And yes, he can take pride in having Japanese ancestry... BUT!! With that amount of Japanese blood, would it be fair for him to apply... Say for a federal government job as an Asian-American? Also, was any of his immediate family members detained by the U.S. Government during world war 2? If so, he would have a stronger leg to stand on when making a claim of being part Japanese.
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Old 10-17-2018, 10:52 AM
 
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Point of emphasis - the pattern of "oh, this will really hurt Trump!" turning into some degree of victory FOR Trump is basically immutable at this point.

Same exact pattern, every time. It is initially heralded as "the thing" that will finally ruin him, and within 24-48 hours, it has backfired or fizzled out, and he's ended up winning. At this point, not only is he winning, Warren has basically scuttled her 2020 run, and her own party is trying to distance themselves from her....and she did all the work to make all that happen.

She got several tribal nations, not just the Cherokee, to issue statements basically telling her to ****, she is no Native/Indian American. They had remained silent on the issue, for the most part, until she tried to beat Trump with her stunt. Now, she's been discredited by the very people she claims to be family member of. Not only that, several tribal nations have scoured her record and are now properly claiming she is no friend of Native Americans generally, and her record proves it. FFS, she is delivering the NA vote to Trump.

It's irony you couldn't dream up if someone gave you 10 years and paid you.
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Old 10-17-2018, 11:09 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Where exactly did I say that?

It's her fault for playing into his hands.
Totally agree. While I like Warren - I did NOT want her to be our nominee. It has to be a male otherwise - conservatives will demonize them to no end.
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:26 PM
 
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You realize how much that is contaminated with Spanish. That raped and pillaged there since the 1300's.
Warren is up to 1.5% mestizo Conquistador .
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:28 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Actually, 6th generation would be 1/64th but moving on. She didn't use it to her advantage. As has been stated multiple times the people who hired her did so as a white woman.
Of course, she used being supposedly "Native American" to her advantage. Both Penn and Harvard listed her in their faculty award winner reports and campus publications as Native American or minority, not as White.

Warren was listed as a minority in the University of Pennsylvania’s "Minority Equity Report."
The publication listed past winners of its “Lindback Award,” and the names of minority professors were listed in bold and italics. Warren, who won the prize in 1994, was listed in the font used for minorities.

Additionally, Warren has come under increasing scrutiny for listing herself as a minority in a law school directory, the Association of American Law Schools, from 1986 until 1995.

Penn's Minority Equity Report: https://almanac.upenn.edu/archive/vo...ity_equity.pdf
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:32 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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What an idiot. Why did she release that info? She just killed her career.
Yes, she did just kill her career, and seriously wounded the Dems heading into the November midterm elections. And honestly...? Many on the left are SO deluded, they're incapable of realizing that their press releases, etc., are in fact self-sabotage. They are truly puzzled as to why they're rejected by thinking people.
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Old 10-17-2018, 01:01 PM
 
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2020 for Warren, in a meme....

https://www.glocktalk.com/data/attac...c617462589.jpg

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Old 10-17-2018, 01:14 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Yes, indeed!

Too bad I can't rep you again so soon. :/

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Old 10-17-2018, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Old 10-17-2018, 05:40 PM
 
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Donnie, what about that cool million or so you said you'd pay to that charity? No?

At least Don the Con's smart enough not to place bets with a mob-connected bookie. Not that that's saying much.
He should write a check for 1/1024 of the million. Nice compromise.
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