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View Poll Results: How will illegal immigrant invasion caravan effect midterm election
Help Republicans 203 74.09%
Help Democrats 21 7.66%
No effect 50 18.25%
Voters: 274. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-24-2018, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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My prediction. If the caravan or parts of it reach the border, Border patrol will process them and release them into the US where they'll be here forever. The democrats won't allow anything else to happen.


That's the reality of what's been happening. Every week the equivalent of this caravan is caught at the border and many of them are released into the US. And the majority of illegals are not even caught, so every day the equivalent of this caravan enters the US.

Border patrol will detain them as is required. The courts will set dates to hear their cases a couple of years into the future. They will then be released because the courts have ruled you cannot lock people up for long periods to await a hearing.

Again the problem is a malfunctioning immigration system driven by the fact it is dealing with an unworkable over load.

So we fix our problem or it continues forever and the disadvantaged of central america will likely take advantage.
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Old 10-24-2018, 07:10 PM
 
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The third world eyes are on what will happen once the caravan gets here. If we do something to keep them out, except for the few that get amnesty, then others from those third world countries may not try the same thing in the future. If we roll over then we might as well just give up, get rid of border patrol and tear up immigration laws - we'd be defeated.
I agree but the Border Patrol is quietly catching and releasing the border crossers into the US because Democrats have tied their hands. They all can claim asylum and something like 93% are released never to show up to their asylum hearings.
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Old 10-24-2018, 07:13 PM
 
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Border patrol will detain them as is required. The courts will set dates to hear their cases a couple of years into the future. They will then be released because the courts have ruled you cannot lock people up for long periods to await a hearing.

Again the problem is a malfunctioning immigration system driven by the fact it is dealing with an unworkable over load.

So we fix our problem or it continues forever and the disadvantaged of central america will likely take advantage.
No the problem is open border Democrats and yes a few open border Republicans have purposely created a system that prevents immigration enforcement and only allows catch and release into the US. We are being scammed in the biggest scam ever pulled on a nation.
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Old 10-24-2018, 07:29 PM
 
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I agree but the Border Patrol is quietly catching and releasing the border crossers into the US because Democrats have tied their hands. They all can claim asylum and something like 93% are released never to show up to their asylum hearings.
No the courts have tied their hands. You cannot keep people locked up for long periods awaiting a hearing. Simple as that.

I suppose we could quadruple or quintuple the number of immigration attorneys and judges and do better. Throw a few more billion at the problem.

But let us be clear... it is the constitution and the courts who require that people be released after a reasonable period...not the Democrats.
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Old 10-24-2018, 07:33 PM
 
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No the courts have tied their hands. You cannot keep people locked up for long periods awaiting a hearing. Simple as that.

I suppose we could quadruple or quintuple the number of immigration attorneys and judges and do better. Throw a few more billion at the problem.

But let us be clear... it is the constitution and the courts who require that people be released after a reasonable period...not the Democrats.
The illegals need to be caught and returned home not released into the US. You can slice it anyway you want but open border Democrats whether they're in the judiciary or legislator have purposely made immigration enforcement impossible.
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Old 10-24-2018, 07:42 PM
 
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I wonder why trump and republicans are campaigning on their tax cuts for the rich and for multinational corporations?
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Old 10-24-2018, 07:46 PM
 
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The illegals need to be caught and returned home not released into the US. You can slice it anyway you want but open border Democrats whether they're in the judiciary or legislator have purposely made immigration enforcement impossible.
Utter and complete BS. The use of illegal immigrants is a long established US tradition that has nothing to do with Democrats. Standard operating procedure in much of the US. Actually government sanctioned at times.

As it began to spiral out of control the Reagan administration attempted a fix. It might well have worked except both parties abandoned their commitment as soon as the base deed was done.

At this point the solution is to legalize most of them until we have a problem within the reach of the immigration system. We can even increase the size of the system to allow more to be deported. But it will make little difference. The vast majority will end up legalized.

And the only ones I know of preaching open borders are some limit Libertarians. But they have so many odd beliefs they will never be a serious factor.
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Old 10-24-2018, 07:46 PM
 
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Your media must believe it, too. They claim the caravan will be at our border by the Nov vote.
You mean fake conservative media.
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Old 10-24-2018, 08:03 PM
 
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Utter and complete BS. The use of illegal immigrants is a long established US tradition that has nothing to do with Democrats. Standard operating procedure in much of the US. Actually government sanctioned at times.

As it began to spiral out of control the Reagan administration attempted a fix. It might well have worked except both parties abandoned their commitment as soon as the base deed was done.

At this point the solution is to legalize most of them until we have a problem within the reach of the immigration system. We can even increase the size of the system to allow more to be deported. But it will make little difference. The vast majority will end up legalized.

And the only ones I know of preaching open borders are some limit Libertarians. But they have so many odd beliefs they will never be a serious factor.
The Refugee scam was mostly stated in 1980 under Carter.

You want to legalize all the illegals so they can vote for democrats and which will encourage even more to illegally enter like all amnesties and you don't call that open borders either ? That's open borders plus open naturalization and citizenship. That's the complete opposite of what we should do. That's entering the Twilight Zone.
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Old 10-24-2018, 08:09 PM
 
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The Refugee scam was mostly stated in 1980 under Carter.

You want to legalize all the illegals so they can vote for democrats and which will encourage even more to illegally enter like all amnesties and you don't call that open borders either ? That's open borders plus open naturalization and citizenship. That's the complete opposite of what we should do. That's entering the Twilight Zone.
Even more BS. The Refugees are legal and have nothing to do with illegal aliens.

No i always go for legalization not amnesty to avoid the voting by ex illegals. And by the way I still think the right has that issue absolutely backwards. Mexicans tend to be Catholic and Conservative. I expect over time they will create more Republicans than Democrats. Their kids though may be more rational so there is hope.
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