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View Poll Results: How will illegal immigrant invasion caravan effect midterm election
Help Republicans 203 74.09%
Help Democrats 21 7.66%
No effect 50 18.25%
Voters: 274. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-03-2018, 05:52 PM
 
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According to military planning documents, about 20 percent of the roughly 7,000 migrants traveling through Mexico are likely to complete the journey. The unclassified report was obtained and published by Newsweek on Thursday. If the military’s assessment is accurate, it would mean the United States is positioning five soldiers on the border for every one caravan member expected to arrive there. ( which will not be before 4 to 6 weeks.)


The report was prepared by U.S. Army North, a component of U.S. Northern Command, which oversees the mission dubbed Operation Faithful Patriot. Military officials, reached Friday, did not dispute its veracity.


The deployment appears to be the largest such peacetime mobilization of active-duty U.S. troops at the border in at least a century.


Trump is wasting military dollars in a politically motivated stunt ahead of Tuesday’s midterm elections, at a time when the Pentagon budget is under pressure.

Once again, we have to pay our troops no matter where they are stationed so WTH are you talking about? Did Trump order this caravan to come here because of the mid term elections? No, he didn't! Was he just supposed to ignore it? It would be far more likely that the Democrats were behind this to drum up sympathy for these people.


How does this caravan or Trump's actions have any effect on the elections? Are you seriously claiming that without the above that Republicans would have stayed home or voted Democrat instead? You people are truly delusional!
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Old 11-03-2018, 05:54 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Excellent links, very informative.

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Q: Do we know who is in the caravan?
A: We continue to be concerned about individuals along the caravan route. In fact, over 270 individuals along the caravan route have criminal histories, including known gang membership. Those include a number of violent criminals – examples include aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, armed robbery, sexual assault on a child, and assault on a female. Mexican officials have also publicly stated that criminal groups have infiltrated the caravan. We also continue to see individuals from over 20 countries in this flow from countries such as Somalia, India, Haiti, Afghanistan, and Bangladesh. There is a large segment of this population that we know nothing about and we must be prepared to defend our border and enforce our laws to protect the citizens of our country.

Q: Are there criminals in the caravan?
A: Yes – so far, there are over 270 individuals along the caravan route that have criminal histories, including known gang membership.

On October 29, the Mexican ambassador to the U.S. described some of the caravan members as “very violent:” “Unfortunately, some of the people in the caravan have been very violent against authority, even though they have offered the possibility of entering in compliance with immigration law and refugee status.”

On October 30, Mexico’s Interior Minister Navarrete Prida speaking on Radio Enfoque (Focus) 100.1 FM, confirmed that some criminal groups have infiltrated the caravan: “I have videos from Guatemala that show men dressed in identical clothing, sporting the same haircuts, handing out money to women to persuade them to move to the front of the caravan… We know, for a fact, that some members of the caravan threatened [Mexican] Migration Institute personnel and we have images showing many of them preparing Molotov cocktails.”
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Old 11-03-2018, 05:56 PM
 
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Yes, again, really

Just because certain parts are harder, and thus avoided, does not counter my statement. If all the wall was equally hard, it would still be breached given time and no guards

How often would it be breached though based on the links I provided? Who says there would no guards around? The last one that tried broke both legs trying.

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Old 11-03-2018, 06:03 PM
 
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Once again, we have to pay our troops no matter where they are stationed so WTH are you talking about? Did Trump order this caravan to come here because of the mid term elections? No, he didn't! Was he just supposed to ignore it? It would be far more likely that the Democrats were behind this to drum up sympathy for these people.


How does this caravan or Trump's actions have any effect on the elections? Are you seriously claiming that without the above that Republicans would have stayed home or voted Democrat instead? You people are truly delusional!
The democrats are after the votes and I have admit it is a good strategy. Trump's action to enforce our immigration laws will be twisted by the media as bigot and racist against the brown people. Brown voters will most likely vote against republicans because Trump is a republican. That is the most stupid reason to vote, but people are what people are.
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Old 11-03-2018, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Wait. The caravan is 1,000 miles away, and they're already preparing molotov cocktails?

Because, what, you can't fill a bottle with gasoline closer to the border?
They're apparently using them along the way.
Some of them burned down a Mexican immigration facility.
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Old 11-03-2018, 06:49 PM
 
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They are probably using pee for now for the visual effect. Gasoline will likely be provided by the leftwing activist as they get in sight of the border.

Thanks for the laugh of the day! It's probably true to.
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Old 11-03-2018, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Aren't there already hundreds of people illegally going across the border every day? Why the hell isn't Trump worried as much about them?

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Old 11-03-2018, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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That will be up to them. As noted, many have turned back already or have chosen to remain in Mexico. By the time the remnant arrive, six to eight weeks from now, their numbers are likely to be even lower.

You know, it would make so much more sense for our government to support stability and democracy and economic opportunity in Honduras and Guatemala and the other "sending countries", so that people could live safe and productive lives in their own countries and not feel compelled to walk thousands of miles on the slim chance of admittance to ours, rather than to use this sad situation solely for political hay.

But this is Trump's doing, and he will not change. He is incapable of changing or doing the humane, logical, sensible thing. Instead, he's sending troops to the border and cutting off economic aid to Honduras...

Why people continue to buy his crap is beyond me. We need a better educated and informed populace in this country if democracy and basic decency are to survive, and I hope the next administration will make that a top priority.

Honestly, Trump trying to secure our border is the sensible thing to do. His oath is to the citizens of the U.S. not to third world country citizens coming here by the thousands. Not sure why you would think otherwise.

Cutting off aid to a country with a corrupt government makes sense, they're doing nothing to fix their own country.

Lastly no "many" have not turned back. Out of the original 7,000----- 5,000 are still on their way. Three additional caravans are in the process of following or gearing up to come as well. What other country will sit back and allow that?
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Old 11-03-2018, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Aren't there already hundreds of people illegally going across the border every day? Why the hell isn't Trump worried about them.
Huh? Now Trump isn't concerned enough about the Southern border to suit you? Did you forget who has spent the past three years calling for a wall to be built?
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Old 11-03-2018, 07:04 PM
 
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i.e. "I know it's probably true, but I don't like to admit it, so I'll make up BS about it instead".
This claim has been proven false by the DoD.trump made it up.
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