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What about clowns painted in whiteface? Raaaacist.
I have seen black people wearing white face on Halloween and not as clowns. I don't know what they were suppose to be but all the white people just ignored it.
Many white people are conditioned or just peculiar that they don't mind or recognize racism against them, but are overly concerned about racism against others.
If Al Roker had said this there wouldn't be a controversy. Whites are excluded from saying things that blacks can say all the time. Apparently the color of one's skin gains you entrance to an exclusive club of "anything said goes". I've watched docu's where the most offensive way for one black to hurt another black if the former is angry at the latter is to call them the "n" word. But blacks can call whites cracker, honky all day long and not raise an eyebrow. It's definitely a one-way street, but given the oppression blacks underwent for 3 centuries in this country I think whites give them a pass, understandably so.
I'm 32 years old. I learned about blackface in the early 2000s. It's hard for me to accept age as a reason. And with people even younger than me engaging in blackface, I'm very skeptical as to believe age is the issue.
I never knew about "black face" until I took a drama class as one of my electives in college to lighten the load that I had with all the other classes I was taken there were not easy.
I was 22 years old. Not once were we taught that in school.
It was the drama teacher who explained the history of Hollywood - black face, NDNs...and how it is now illegal for anyone to portray an NDN in a movie if they are not actually NDN. She showed us some old films, which is the only reason I even know how they painted their faces and how they acted - it was totally disgusting, to that I agree. They painted their faces black...or at least that's how it appeared in black and white film. And they opened their eyes really wide, like they were trying to make their eyes look like they were bugging out, and they acted incredibly stupid, as if all black people were uneducated fools. Had I not taken that class, I don't know if I would have known, because I don't recall ever seeing it again.
Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon, being entertainers, should have known that, or some producer somewhere along the way should have known that and not allowed it to happen. Yet...no one stood up and said anything to them. If there was something like that, I'd like to see it.
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Actor Tom Hanks was also involved in a 'blackface' video. The video quality is terrible, but apparently the charge was accurate. He apologized profusely. Since he's a big Democratic donor, it was accepted all around and was not ripped as being a racist.
I don't see her comment as at all indication racism, but rather stupidity, just as the 'monkey up' comment by FL Gov. candidate Ron DeSantis. He was stupid to say that, but it does not show him to be a racist.
You are entitled to feel however you want, but your unreasonable feelings should not dictate what others can say, do and what they meant. I would suggest you are too wrapped up in all things related to and beneficial to your race. I honestly don't see how your mentality and motivation and intolerance of those that differ is any different in principle to a white supremacist's or neo-Nazi's.
No amount of gaslighting on your part is going to change my stance. Period. What I feel is what I feel and there is nothing you can do about that. If it bothers you, well, it is what it is.
No amount of gaslighting on your part is going to change my stance. Period. What I feel is what I feel and there is nothing you can do about that. If it bothers you, well, it is what it is.
Claiming "gaslighting" is not a response. I did not gaslight at all. I specifically made my point clearly and you totally failed to address any of it. I can only assume you have no valid response other than to agree with my point. You feel what you feel. Why should anyone care about your self-serving and selfish and unreasonable feelings when you condemn others for theirs?
Claiming "gaslighting" is not a response. I did not gaslight at all. I specifically made my point clearly and you totally failed to address any of it. I can only assume you have no valid response other than to agree with my point. You feel what you feel. Why should anyone care about your self-serving and selfish and unreasonable feelings?
You are gaslighting. You are using manipulation to try and make me question my own feelings about this situation. I have a problem with blackface. I would be hurt if someone I admired and respected did anything like that. You respond by claiming "you only care what's good for Blacks". You are essentially gaslighting me for having a problem with blackface. I was not having a debate with you. You were resorting to manipulation.
Why should you care? Well, anyone with any kind of decency would understand that the whole blackface thing is inherently bigoted.
You are gaslighting. You are using manipulation to try and make me question my own feelings about this situation. I have a problem with blackface. I would be hurt if someone I admired and respected did anything like that. You respond by claiming "you only care what's good for Blacks". You are essentially gaslighting me for having a problem with blackface. I was not having a debate with you. You were resorting to manipulation.
Why should you care? Well, anyone with any kind of decency would understand that the whole blackface thing is inherently bigoted.
I am not gaslighting or manipulating. I'm saying just because you don't like something or see something a certain way doesn't mean someone else has to not like it and see it the same way. Do you want me to dictate what you can or can't do or say based on what feels right to me? No you do not, so you have no grounds to stand on.
I am not gaslighting or manipulating. I'm saying just because you don't like something or see something a certain way doesn't mean someone else has to not like it and see it the same way. Do you want me to dictate what you can or can't do or say based on what feels right to me? No you do not, so you have no grounds to stand on.
Actually, what you were saying that my feelings were unreasonable.
Actually, what you were saying that my feelings were unreasonable.
You're feelings are your feelings. They can't be "unreasonable". However, your positions, and some thoughts about other may be. I don't think anyone is trying to gaslight you. I think you just don't like the opinion of others in which you disagree, and that is your right.
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