Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-14-2018, 01:53 PM
 
63,000 posts, read 29,178,555 times
Reputation: 18605

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedZin View Post
I see the vast majority of the problem solved by revamping the system that tracks people who are here on visas and using e-Verify to ensure that people are legally cleared to work in the USA.

We're not gonna stop drug dealers and gang members with a border wall.

So you are also one who is ignoring the many links I have provided proving that the good walls are very effective? No one is saying that it will stop illegal entry 100% but does it have to? Criminals and terrorists aren't looking for work either. Illegals will still try to come here and give birth on our soil with our without the job incentive, thus the wall. Visa over stayers are also a problem but that has to be dealt with in a different way.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-14-2018, 01:55 PM
 
Location: North America
19,784 posts, read 15,121,570 times
Reputation: 8527
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocko20 View Post
https://news4sanantonio.com/news/loc...xas-11-14-2018

The Left assured us this wall was never going to happen. Yet here we are with 2 contracts awarded and construction to begin in February

Good to see I no longer have to depend on “hope and change” to see results.
It's a six mile fence. The border wall needs funding approval from Congress. Remember them?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-14-2018, 01:56 PM
 
Location: North America
19,784 posts, read 15,121,570 times
Reputation: 8527
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
So you are also one who is ignoring the many links I have provided proving that the good walls are very effective? No one is saying that it will stop illegal entry 100% but does it have to? Criminals and terrorists aren't looking for work either. Illegals will still try to come here and give birth on our soil with our without the job incentive, thus the wall. Visa over stayers are also a problem but that has to be dealt with in a different way.
O.G. unless the wall traverses the entire border it will just move the problem to another part of the country.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-14-2018, 02:00 PM
 
63,000 posts, read 29,178,555 times
Reputation: 18605
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeutralParty View Post
Correct. $145M of US Tax payer money for a 6 mile fence.

Notice how the Trumpers here stopped trying to spin that story altogether. American taxpayers are paying for that wall.

Another Trump lie and failed campaign promise.

Yet you and yours don't even blink an eye at the over $100 billion a year that illegals cost us. Do I need to post the link once again of Trump's plan? He never said that Mexico would write a check for it. You don't give a damn about the wall anyway all you want to do is bash Trump. You might want to change your username as you are anything but "neutral".
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-14-2018, 02:01 PM
 
5,315 posts, read 2,116,700 times
Reputation: 2572
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedZin View Post
I see the vast majority of the problem solved by revamping the system that tracks people who are here on visas and using e-Verify to ensure that people are legally cleared to work in the USA.

We're not gonna stop drug dealers and gang members with a border wall.
Well sure, I have advocated for remedying with that measure too, before. Its idiotic...unless you are for THE WALL, some people here say you're for open borders.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-14-2018, 02:04 PM
 
5,315 posts, read 2,116,700 times
Reputation: 2572
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2mares View Post
I keep hearing this. In 2017 there were ~ 600,000 unaccounted for visa overstays, mostly student visas. In 2017 there were ~415,000 illegal border crossers (521,000 in 2018 as of Sept.) that were caught so this number doesn't reflect those who were not apprehended.
We have no idea how many were not apprehended, so I still think it's best to go off the problems we can see. Plus, the visa overstays are actually here, theoretically, vs. the people we caught, so to speak.

"That report estimated visa overstays in 2014 accounted for 42 percent of the total undocumented population, or about 4.5 million people. It also projected that overstays made up about two-thirds of the total number of people who became unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. that year."

"Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, told PolitiFact Virginia in 2016 that while estimates of undocumented immigrants have been stable since 2007, the number of people entering illegally across the southwestern U.S. border has "collapsed."

That means that the proportion of those overstaying their visas likely is on the rise, he said in 2016."

https://www.politifact.com/californi...lf-all-people/
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-14-2018, 02:05 PM
 
63,000 posts, read 29,178,555 times
Reputation: 18605
Quote:
Originally Posted by WMak70 View Post
WOW, 8 miles, huh ? Only 1550 more to go and you will have your dream.




What do you think 8 miles will do ? They can jog around that in about 15 minutes.

Nope, only about 600 miles to go. Look up the Secure Fence Act. It's for 700 miles and that's all we need. You and your's mockery of our border security says a lot about you.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-14-2018, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
24,651 posts, read 9,477,090 times
Reputation: 22989
Quote:
Originally Posted by stiffnecked View Post
You can't even name one smarter way that ICE isn't already using. Ask the ICE officers working on the border, walls work.
Yup, they do work. Just ask all the violent conviction felons stuck behind walls right now. Ask China if walls work to keep NK refugees out (they do).

Since a person can't walk through a wall, they must then think of another way through it. This allows traffic to be funneled into other checkpoints or choke points.

Unless mexico plans a Berlin airlift, walls will work to decrease illegal immigration. Sovereign nations must have borders
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-14-2018, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
24,651 posts, read 9,477,090 times
Reputation: 22989
Quote:
Originally Posted by WMak70 View Post
WOW, 8 miles, huh ? Only 1550 more to go and you will have your dream.
8 and 6 miles of the most heavily trafficked illegal immigration areas, to compliment the massive fencing already on the border authorized by Mr. Obama

That's called progress. Sorry you prefer open borders instead.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-14-2018, 02:22 PM
 
Location: San Diego
50,327 posts, read 47,088,247 times
Reputation: 34090
Quote:
Originally Posted by carterstamp View Post
O.G. unless the wall traverses the entire border it will just move the problem to another part of the country.
Not really, illegals don't like dying in the desert or drowning in an ocean. The only real spots we need a wall are large border towns like here in SD and that wall has done wonders judging by the number of bodies they find out in the desert trying to "walk around it".
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:05 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top