Views of Libertarians (federal government, guns, official, foreign)

[lifeexplorer]

Originally Posted by turkey-head

So you're saying that you're ok with a reasonable level of socialism in our society?

You know... like every single developed country already has?

Reasonable level of the socialism is ZERO.

Socialism is the second most evil ideology ever conceived.

[turkey-head]

Originally Posted by lifeexplorer

Reasonable level of the socialism is ZERO.

Socialism is the second most evil ideology ever conceived.

And yet every single developed country in the world has incorporated some level of socialism into their economy.

No exceptions.

Why is the Holy Free Market such a failure at building developed countries?

[Winterfall8324]

Originally Posted by lifeexplorer

Reasonable level of the socialism is ZERO.

Socialism is the second most evil ideology ever conceived.

Humans have been communists for thousands of years, the modern state system created industrial capitalism.

What do you have against communism?

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by Volobjectitarian

Like who? Give an example?

You haven't read this thread? We get the reply that "Taxes are theft" and when I ask for an explanation how things would work without them the only reply is "you are a slave".

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by Winterfall8324

Humans have been communists for thousands of years, the modern state system created industrial capitalism.

What do you have against communism?

Body count

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Body count

Murdering people is not a tenet of Communism. Murdering people isn't a tenet of Capitalism either but it's sure seen it's share of dead people to keep the "Capitalists" happy also.

[Winterfall8324]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Body count

Say hi to king leopold. He massacred many in seeking profit, which is a major tenet of capitalism.


Oh yeah, Leninism is not communism, neither are Marxist states. Look at the North Sentinel Islands if you want to see real communism.

[No_Recess]

Originally Posted by pknopp

You haven't read this thread? We get the reply that "Taxes are theft" and when I ask for an explanation how things would work without them the only reply is "you are a slave".

I already responded to your inquiry.

You don't like the idea that how you negotiate freedom of association is up to you.

That's fine and all but when you preordain violence (taxation, the State) on everyone else as a result of this refusal then I have a problem with it.

If we had no State/taxes I know what I would do. It has nothing to do with you and unless you want to hire me to tell you what to do I have no interest in bossing you around.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by No_Recess

I already responded to your inquiry.

Yes, you responded that you were an Anarchist. No?

[No_Recess]

Originally Posted by Winterfall8324

Say hi to king leopold. He massacred many in seeking profit, which is a major tenet of capitalism.


Oh yeah, Leninism is not communism, neither are Marxist states. Look at the North Sentinel Islands if you want to see real communism.

1. You have no idea how North Sentinel Island is being governed/not governed. Outside people can't even get in there. Quit trying to claim it.

2. I have nothing against communism if you leave me alone. I doubt that you will based on what I understand of it. And everyone who filters communism through statism (yes, that's not communism...don't argue with me on that) ends up being a genocidal madman.