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Old 01-15-2019, 05:00 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Build a wall so that years later we can historically dismantle it and sell it on ebay.

Seriously...I say take it to the People....Ask them to nationality and individually Vote on this Billion $ structure. I've yet to see congress or senate GO BACK to the People and say...Hey....What do you want us to do? Instead they say...Heres what we are going to do and maybe in 6- 8 months you'll try to have us removed from office...but by then we'll have done enough damage.. to leave you defeated...

It was a relief stats wise to know that some folks still have common sense and logic to NOT contribute.

I did laugh at the Parody Go fund me page from Will Hayden (the guy in Colorado)....Now that was a Hoot to read ....I seriously was going to toss him $5 just for his gumption.
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sell it on ebay
If they make it out of steal, there is tank material for future tanks, when they run out of money for military equipment ...
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take it to the People....Ask them to nationality and individually Vote
Take it to the professionals, the Boarder Patrol and its agents, let them identify their needs and address those needs.

 
Old 01-15-2019, 05:38 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Annual apprehensions began slowing substantially a few years earlier. So did fewer come here because they knew a recession was coming (that few Americans did) or because the fence was being expanded?

2004 1,189,000
2005 1,089,000
2006 876,000
2007 723,000

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/fi...000-FY2017.pdf
Correlation isn’t causation.

Try again.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 05:50 PM
 
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Correlation isn’t causation.

Try again.

Correlation doesn't negate causation, either. I presented the numbers and raised a question (that would be denoted by that "?" character at the end.) Prove it's correlation and not causation.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 05:59 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Correlation doesn't negate causation, either. I presented the numbers and raised a question (that would be denoted by that "?" character at the end.) Prove it's correlation and not causation.
Your logic is flawed, not to mention you’re “arguing from ignorance”. (argumentum ad ignorantiam)


Prove it’s correlation (your claim, as well)? How would you like me to do that?
 
Old 01-15-2019, 06:03 PM
 
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Originally Posted by oceangaia View Post
Annual apprehensions began slowing substantially a few years earlier. So did fewer come here because they knew a recession was coming (that few Americans did) or because the fence was being expanded?

2004 1,189,000
2005 1,089,000
2006 876,000
2007 723,000

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/fi...000-FY2017.pdf
I started to rep you to say thanks, but found I could not. That suitcase I mentioned so needs packed. We leave tomorrow but here I sit ...
 
Old 01-15-2019, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Unplugged from the matrix
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Originally Posted by subaru5555 View Post
Correlation isn’t causation.

Try again.
What kind of answer is this? Tell us why it dropped... If it was the opposite, you know you'd post the numbers as proof the "fence" didn't work.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 06:08 PM
 
Location: AZ
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What kind of answer is this? Tell us why it dropped... If it was the opposite, you know you'd post the numbers as proof the "fence" didn't work.
It’s the logically consistent answer. There’s no “proof” either way with the basic numbers provided in the original post.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 06:12 PM
 
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Your logic is flawed, not to mention you’re “arguing from ignorance”. (argumentum ad ignorantiam)

Prove it’s correlation (your claim, as well)? How would you like me to do that?

Correlation was my claim? You're the one that brought up correlation.


The flaw in your argument (probably a fancy Latin name for it) is that I never asserted it was causation. Again, I refer you to that "?" character I used.


I'd also refer you to the "or" in the sentence containing two possible explanations and would like to know which one you ASSumed was the correlation/causation.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 06:14 PM
 
Location: AZ
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The fallacy in your argument (I'm sure there's a fancy Latin name for it) is that I never asserted it was causation. Again, I refer you to that "?" character I used.


Correlation was my claim? You're the one that brought up correlation.
No, it was clearly implied in your post. And the “?” doesn’t change the position you’re arguing from.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 06:17 PM
 
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It’s the logically consistent answer. There’s no “proof” either way with the basic numbers provided in the original post.

Have you been provided "other" numbers since then and now relating your failures in this thread to not worrying about those numbers, because you know you have failed?
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