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View Poll Results: Are you happy with Trump’s deal to reopen the Federal government for 3 weeks?
I’m happy with the deal 41 36.61%
It’s ok 50 44.64%
I’m unhappy with this deal 21 18.75%
Voters: 112. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-10-2019, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Richmond,VA
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He’s a narcissistic, lying, sociopath! We really need to have better leadership running this country! Trump is hurting everyone in the US, and why does he still have a loyal base? Are they that incredibly stupid?

Yeah, and Obozo wasn't a narcissist, lying sociopath either? The country survived 8 miserable years but here we are doing just fine.
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Trump is leading his followers by example. That or he is the dog being waged by the tail of his followers and conservative columnists... I think it is both.
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:36 AM
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To the bold, those ON the border say it does work.....





https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/12/12/walls-work


So, we should not listen to the people who are actually on the border?

No you ask yourself why didn't Trump take the little he got to build whatever he could to prove that it's working then ask for more later? THAT's how you make a deal. Not reject something ask for more like a spoiled child and expect the people you are working with to comply. Boarder security is not a over night thing and even if he got all of his 5 billion or whatever it was it'll take years and cost run over to complete.

Trump likes to make a stink about these things to make it look like he is working it out cooperatively. Bottom line Trump does not like deal making. He's used to being the money man walk into a room deal or no deal on he and M. Cohen terms and either stay or walk out. Congress does not work that way.
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by ambient View Post
Hell, now Trump is lying about his own words.

For those of you with convenient amnesia, the video and quote is right here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP-q3KxCopM



So conservatives... is it a comprehension problem with you? Do you not understand some of the words? Or are you just dishonest?

Or are you basically saying Trump's word is garbage?..

You can spin lies, but the truth is that Donald proudly took ownership of the shutdown on December 11, 2018, and it's there for every reasonable person of sound mind to reference until the end of time. Donald is the one who took 800K workers and their families hostage to try to get his demands.
Why are you doing the same thing to conservatives? They aren't the ones spinning lies here. The truth is your big government policies are failures which is why you avoid discussing policy.
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:41 AM
 
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This is a lie.

No matter how many times it is repeated, it is still a lie.
Its not a lie. California is the blueprint that looney libs want for the entire country. Chuck and Nancy lied through their teeth on TV the other night. They're a bunch of political cowards, and traitors to this country. They dont care about you or any american. They just want power and will do whatever it takes to get it . Even if it means importing third world migrants until our country becomes the third world.
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:46 AM
 
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Oh look... a article from the DHS website... probably put there at the direction of the current administration... which means it’s probably as factual as they are...


Oh look, if that was true, the number would be going the wrong way...yes?


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To the bold...talk about a lie....


Or are you going to start screaming that trump owns that website and he can put what ever he wants on it?


https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/12/12/walls-work

Damn, called that one...and it took less than 20 posts to say it...
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:48 AM
 
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Why is this so hard to understand. Trump only wants a physical wall. Democrats want boarder security measures (more officers and equipment). Trump will only accept a wall and democrats will accept anything but a wall. Please stop trying to spin things. The idiot Trump will lose this argument because he demanded a meeting with Pelosi and Schumur be public. He then proudly stated that he will own the shutdown. He then double down when he stated he will keep it shut down for months or years. As my dad use to say he wrote a check his XXX can't cash. The party who gets the blame for the shut down are always the one who loses the argument. Trump claimed this was all him so he owns it. He is flopping like a fish on land because he throwing out all kind of crap hoping to see what sticks. These Trumpster's are tying themselves up in knots trying to defend this doofus. The only way Trump will ever see a wall is to stab the republicans in back and give the democrats a huge gift for the funds to build it.
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Its not a lie. California is the blueprint that looney libs want for the entire country. Chuck and Nancy lied through their teeth on TV the other night. They're a bunch of political cowards, and traitors to this country. They dont care about you or any american. They just want power and will do whatever it takes to get it . Even if it means importing third world migrants until our country becomes the third world.
The same can be said about Donald Trump's speech too. Just that he is fAR more uncategorically wrong and lied during his speech. You just picked up dogwhistles either that were there or you want to think was there. Meanwhile anyone with half a brain knows Trump lied because his own DHS secretary said that terrorists are stopped in airports and DEA said that drugs come through at ports of entry and not run through a tunnel or over a fence.
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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not as stupid as liberal bleeding hearts who want to turn America into a third world country by keeping wide open borders
In other words you got nothing. just admit it there’s no horde at the border trying to take over this country. You know it but your not willing to admit it your lord and master might disapprove.
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:54 AM
 
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The problem is within a moth or so this too will turn into bad news for Trump. This Friday federal workers and contractors will miss their first paycheck related to the shutdown. That means families effected will need to figure out what bills to pay for and what items they can't get. If they are forced to work, they'll need gasoline that they cannot get without credit since their bank accounts could easily overdraw. This will have effects on the economy if it lasts the months or even years like Trump confirmed he said. These federal workers cannot even get unemployment at all during a shutdown.

Then you have the tax returns. Now unless Trump forces them to go back to work similar to TSA (I have heard conflicting reports), the tax returns processing will be slowed down. The IRS will not be able to add anyone since there is no budget. Now this will effect Q2 reports and the stock market, if returns are not processed as early as spending directly related to tax returns. Expect issues with car manufacturers, and appliance makers. The stock market is already shaky so this could be the tipping point that brings about a Trump recession. We already have had people saying a market correction is due, back into the Obama second term so this isn't anything new.

I actually had to edit this post to remove the FAA since FAA inspectors are deemed non-excepted. Despite the fact the fact is that they are essential to the safety of travelers, pilots, flight attendants and others. This is truly disgusting and once again proves that "essential employees" is a frivolous term.
Since you mention the FAA, this is a good article explaining what aspects of FAA are shut down at this time, and the impact on the safety of air travel.

https://nbaa.org/aircraft-operations...eral-aviation/
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