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Old 01-28-2019, 01:42 PM
 
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I'd love to hand out a couple swat the wasp awards on both sides here today. Yikes. I don't think desperate people trying to eat and live really care about if a country is socialist or communist, or democratic. They only care about living a decent life, and if that opportunity existed in any one of the three? They would take it. That's the bottom line.

See, when people CAN'T have decent life, they start looking at the bottom of it all - what exactly causes the misery?
And that's when "capitalism-socialism" thing inevitably comes into picture.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Well "stopping regulation" is the wrong question to ask. The right question to ask is, what are you trying to achieve with more/less regulation and how do you think the proposed policy should achieve it. Hence why I brought up the child labor laws argument. A free market does not care what age you are, as long as there's demand and there's supply, they will meet somewhere and you'll get a wage. Irrespective of the fact that it's a child doing the labor. That's what no regulation will amount to. So my argument might sound extreme, but also equally extreme is calling someone a communist and/or socialist if they want more regulation than what you're comfortable with agreeing to. if

There are aspects in our regulations that could be improved (i.e. federal sick time requirements). But they are trying to achieve a better outcome.. in the case of sick time, you want people to stay home if they're sick. It would obviously be beneficial to society in general if you encouraged taking time off when you're sick by removing financial obstacles. Applying sick time policy doesn't come for free of course, but is it more valuable than having people work when they're sick is the real question you're answering.


Defining too much regulation is kind of like defining obscenity.....you know it when you see it.

It might be different for different industries or even in different parts of the country.

But over regulation is easy to spot when you see companies going to great lengths to avoid or get around them or simply shuttering their doors because of them.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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I'd love to hand out a couple swat the wasp awards on both sides here today. Yikes. I don't think desperate people trying to eat and live really care about if a country is socialist or communist, or democratic. They only care about living a decent life, and if that opportunity existed in any one of the three? They would take it. That's the bottom line.


Ok....

So then why did so many of the caravan refugees who were offered asylum in Mexico refuse it?
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Old 01-28-2019, 04:05 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Socialism is a parasite that lives on the back of a Capitalist. They would die without Capitalism as we have seen in other countries.

The only question is how blood are we willing to let them suck.
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Old 01-28-2019, 05:26 PM
 
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Who do you think provides food and medical help to this large band of phony migrants? The tooth fairy? Somebody is underwriting the large food and medical trucks that have to accompany these people.

Think through your leftwing talking points.
The food is provided Elvis...duh.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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The mindless oxen are so used to the yoke of communism and socialism that they don't even notice it anymore. They just keep their heads bowed and plow the fields.

I don't know who originally wrote that? But it certainly is fitting.
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Old 01-29-2019, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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I heard on TV a Venezuela woman said she would build a wall for Trump if Venezuela is rescued from the current dictator, she was heading to Columbia.
Really? Did she get a scholarship, and to study what?

One of my pet peeves is misspelling the country Colombia with the university in New York City, Columbia.
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Old 01-29-2019, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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No basis in reality?

Exactly what part of my question has no basis in reality?

America is a capitalist country.....yes?

Venezuela is a socialist country.... right?

And there are thousands of people walking thousands of miles to get to America instead of Venezuela..... correct?
Refugee movements have little to do with political ideology, and more so with personal safety and political stability. I doubt seriously these folks are basing their decisions to leave their homelands based on reading Marx, Friedman, Galbraith, and Keynes.
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Old 01-29-2019, 10:02 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Originally Posted by Cheesemont View Post
Who do you think provides food and medical help to this large band of phony migrants? The tooth fairy? Somebody is underwriting the large food and medical trucks that have to accompany these people.

Think through your leftwing talking points.


Trump is providing it. It helps with his fake national crisis at the border narrative.
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Old 01-29-2019, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Sweden
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The United States of America is neither a Democracy or a dictatorship. It is a Constitutional Republic.

Constitutional Republic:
I always find it laughable when americans claim they don´t live in a democracy.

Sweden, for example, is a constitutional monarchy, yet it is still a democracy.
Both Sweden and the US elect their leaders in free elections, as democracies do.
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