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Old 01-30-2019, 09:53 PM
 
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dying and leaving your children without a mother would be your choice. It's not better or worse than anyone else's choice to save their own life.
Yep, you got it but forgive me for thinking that NOT killing my baby is better than saving my own life. We’ll just have to agree to disagree. You are ok with killing a baby, I personally am not and I would rather die and leave my children than kill their brother or sister because they are all my children and I love them all equally.
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Old 01-30-2019, 11:38 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Many are citing the costs here. What happens if the Democrats and liberals get their way and we have single payer or some other form of universal government funded healthcare? That $25,000 procedure isn't a barrier anymore. All someone would have to do is find a doctor that would say her "mental health" is at risk. Mental health can be very broad and subjective. Even health could be subjective in terms of what conditions qualify if it isn't defined in the law. Wouldn't a doctor wanting a big payment from the government encourage these kinds of abortions? Shouldn't the law be specific on what health conditions are applicable to late term abortions?
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Old 01-30-2019, 11:52 PM
 
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even if a woman is dilating......

and I thought Cuomo was Satan in the flesh......


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortne...-bill-n2540461
Yeah, I'm Pro Choice up to a certain point. But, this is ridiculous. Actually it's sick.
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Old 01-31-2019, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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even if a woman is dilating......

and I thought Cuomo was Satan in the flesh......


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortne...-bill-n2540461
Putting the demonic in Demonic Rat on steroids.
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Old 01-31-2019, 08:01 AM
 
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Many are citing the costs here. What happens if the Democrats and liberals get their way and we have single payer or some other form of universal government funded healthcare? That $25,000 procedure isn't a barrier anymore. All someone would have to do is find a doctor that would say her "mental health" is at risk. Mental health can be very broad and subjective. Even health could be subjective in terms of what conditions qualify if it isn't defined in the law. Wouldn't a doctor wanting a big payment from the government encourage these kinds of abortions? Shouldn't the law be specific on what health conditions are applicable to late term abortions?

Let me get this straight. You think a woman in her last trimester is going to go to her regular pre-natal appointment with her OB-GYN, and she/he is going to suggest she terminate the pregnancy even though the woman has until then planned to deliver? Do I have that right?

When you go to the dentist for a teeth cleaning, are you regularly encouraged to have some teeth extracted because it's a higher priced service?
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Old 01-31-2019, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Yep, you got it but forgive me for thinking that NOT killing my baby is better than saving my own life. We’ll just have to agree to disagree. You are ok with killing a baby, I personally am not and I would rather die and leave my children than kill their brother or sister because they are all my children and I love them all equally.
That’s a perfectly fine choice for you to make. I would never want anyone to force a woman to choose her own life over her unborn child’s. However, I also would not want to force the opposite choice. The operative word here is CHOICE. If I were pregnant with my 3rd child and developed cancer halfway through, I might choose to terminate in order to have the treatment I needed to continue to be there for my first two children. I would completely support someone who made the opposite decision. Also, if my unborn baby had a condition that would kill him or her within days of birth, I might choose to terminate rather than continue the pregnancy, deliver, and hold the baby while he or she dies. Again, I’d support the opposite choice as well. It’s a horrible choice to make and nobody has to live with it moreso than the mother.
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Old 01-31-2019, 08:22 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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I usually avoid threads on abortion like the plague. I've seen them get SOOOO ugly on here with some of the nastiest and vilest commentary I've ever seen. The smattering I have read here does not disappoint to such ends. At any rate what is being discussed here is NOT "abortion" or "a woman's right to choose." This makes infanticide on a live born baby now independent of its mothers body legal.


This does not "protect women from being forced to be incubators." It just makes killing a newborn that is breathing and crying a legitimate form of birth control. Yea. Makes sense to me. This just took a LOT of people off the fence on abortion rights. And rightly so methinks.
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Old 01-31-2019, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Let me get this straight. You think a woman in her last trimester is going to go to her regular pre-natal appointment with her OB-GYN, and she/he is going to suggest she terminate the pregnancy even though the woman has until then planned to deliver? Do I have that right?

When you go to the dentist for a teeth cleaning, are you regularly encouraged to have some teeth extracted because it's a higher priced service?
I think all leg amputations should be made illegal because what if someone with an ingrown toenail decides to have their next door neighbor chop off their leg because they are too selfish to clip their toenails straight across and wear sensible shoes? People with diabetic gangrene shouldn’t choose their lives over their shins and calves... it just creates a precedence for anyone to randomly decide to get their leg cut off. Can’t be having that!!!
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Old 01-31-2019, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I usually avoid threads on abortion like the plague. I've seen them get SOOOO ugly on here with some of the nastiest and vilest commentary I've ever seen. The smattering I have read here does not disappoint to such ends. At any rate what is being discussed here is NOT "abortion" or "a woman's right to choose." This makes infanticide on a live born baby now independent of its mothers body legal.


This does not "protect women from being forced to be incubators." It just makes killing a newborn that is breathing and crying a legitimate form of birth control. Yea. Makes sense to me. This just took a LOT of people off the fence on abortion rights. And rightly so methinks.
No, you are wrong. Nobody is killing crying newborns. You are reading propaganda and not aware of what the bill actually says or what changes.
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Old 01-31-2019, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Dems are just plain evil. All in favor of killing innocent human beings, but dead set against death penalty for even the worst murderers.
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