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Old 02-15-2019, 02:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
"Where are the pictures/videos of these hordes of illegal people who want to come take our country from us?"

Didn't you see ANY pictures of that caravan?

NEW caravans ARE FORMING.

Even by obama's count there are 11 MILLION, sometimes he use a large number, ALREADY here.

Latest "estimate" say it is MUCH higher.

Based on these numbers ALONE, I wound say we have a NATIONAL EMERGENCY!

The Border Patrol catches over 100,00 A YEAR NOT at legal ports of entry. Which does NOT include LEGAL crossing ports.

Bureau of Prisons
"Of the 38,132 known or suspected aliens, approximately 66 percent were unlawfully present in the United States. Some analysts charge that the reason there are so many aliens in federal custody is that they are there for primarily immigration-related offenses. This is certainly true, as about 29 percent of aliens in BOP custody have committed immigration offenses such as illegal reentry after removal.
But most of the aliens are incarcerated because of other federal crimes they committed. According to the report, 46 percent of these aliens committed drug trafficking or other drug-related offenses, which was the largest crime category committed by aliens in BOP custody. The remaining 25 percent committed a variety of other criminal offenses, including fraud, weapons charges, racketeering, and sexual crimes. Clearly, the large population of aliens in BOP custody cannot simply be explained away by immigration crimes."


U.S. Marshals Service (USMS)
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Another 4,665 aliens (24 percent) were held for crimes related to drug trafficking.
Sixty-eight percent (13,449) of the aliens were apprehended in the Southwest region of the United States."


State-Level Reporting (and this is ONLY Texas!)

"Some states have released information about the alien population within their total inmate counts. The FY 2018 Quarter 1 Alien Incarceration Report included information released by the Texas Department of Public Safety regarding aliens in the state's jails. The report notes that this data does not include all aliens in the Texas criminal justice system, but only those who have had prior interaction with DHS.
Over 250,000 criminal aliens were booked in Texas local jails between June 2011 and April 2018. These individuals were charged with more than 663,000 offenses, including:
  • 1,351 homicide charges
  • 79,049 assault charges
  • 18,685 burglary charges
  • 79,900 drug charges
  • 815 kidnapping charges
  • 44,882 theft charges
  • 50,777 obstructing police charges
  • 4,292 robbery charges
  • 7,156 sexual assault charges
  • 9,938 weapons charges.
Cant give out facts as they are not pelosis facts.. Libs are emotional wrecks and dont/cant understand facts..
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Old 02-15-2019, 02:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Tom Lennox 70 View Post
This isn't the best method. Trump should have kept the government shut down until the Democrats agreed to the wall.

Currently liberals still control the Supreme Court as we've seen with the gay marriage decision and with the recent ruling against Louisiana's pro-life laws in favor of unfettered abortion. A Court that supports unfettered abortion will also support illegal immigration.

The state of emergency, which will be legally challenged, might make sense after we are able to appoint another one of our own to the Supreme Court, but not at the current moment when the liberals still dominate the court.

"Currently liberals still control the Supreme Court"
WOW! talk about NOT up speed!
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Old 02-15-2019, 02:43 PM
 
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
More malarky.

Every president starting with George Washington (8) has used executive orders. Reagan had 381 of them. Bush, 291.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ecutive_orders

Obama has 296 and the MOST overtuned.
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Old 02-15-2019, 02:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by xray731 View Post
Let's get real - the a good portions of the Republicans were as butt hurt as the Democrats when Trump was elected and wouldn't work with him - you know that and so does everyone else here - so your statement isn't even a consideration in this conversation. Had he been accepted by his peers as the people these peers represent voted him into office - the wall would have been one of the first things built.

"the a good portions of the Republicans were as butt hurt"


"Let's get real" YOU FIRST!
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Old 02-15-2019, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Long Island
57,400 posts, read 26,435,155 times
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
"Where are the pictures/videos of these hordes of illegal people who want to come take our country from us?"

Didn't you see ANY pictures of that caravan?

NEW caravans ARE FORMING.

Even by obama's count there are 11 MILLION, sometimes he use a large number, ALREADY here.

Latest "estimate" say it is MUCH higher.

Based on these numbers ALONE, I wound say we have a NATIONAL EMERGENCY!

The Border Patrol catches over 100,00 A YEAR NOT at legal ports of entry. Which does NOT include LEGAL crossing ports.

Bureau of Prisons
"Of the 38,132 known or suspected aliens, approximately 66 percent were unlawfully present in the United States. Some analysts charge that the reason there are so many aliens in federal custody is that they are there for primarily immigration-related offenses. This is certainly true, as about 29 percent of aliens in BOP custody have committed immigration offenses such as illegal reentry after removal.
But most of the aliens are incarcerated because of other federal crimes they committed. According to the report, 46 percent of these aliens committed drug trafficking or other drug-related offenses, which was the largest crime category committed by aliens in BOP custody. The remaining 25 percent committed a variety of other criminal offenses, including fraud, weapons charges, racketeering, and sexual crimes. Clearly, the large population of aliens in BOP custody cannot simply be explained away by immigration crimes."


U.S. Marshals Service (USMS)
"
Another 4,665 aliens (24 percent) were held for crimes related to drug trafficking.
Sixty-eight percent (13,449) of the aliens were apprehended in the Southwest region of the United States."


State-Level Reporting (and this is ONLY Texas!)

"Some states have released information about the alien population within their total inmate counts. The FY 2018 Quarter 1 Alien Incarceration Report included information released by the Texas Department of Public Safety regarding aliens in the state's jails. The report notes that this data does not include all aliens in the Texas criminal justice system, but only those who have had prior interaction with DHS.
Over 250,000 criminal aliens were booked in Texas local jails between June 2011 and April 2018. These individuals were charged with more than 663,000 offenses, including:
  • 1,351 homicide charges
  • 79,049 assault charges
  • 18,685 burglary charges
  • 79,900 drug charges
  • 815 kidnapping charges
  • 44,882 theft charges
  • 50,777 obstructing police charges
  • 4,292 robbery charges
  • 7,156 sexual assault charges
  • 9,938 weapons charges.
And Trump will solve this with his wall
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Cant call an national emergency and infringe on rights of the people.. Its been discussed already, its the 2A, cant be infringed on. General Clause in Constitution allows this national emergency to go forward...
Come on and look at how many times Obama, Clinton, Bush, Reagan and Bush Jr declared National Emergencys. And not one liberal cried foul...
Anything is fair game in a national emergency even putting honest citizens in jail and confiscating their property.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Salon makes a good point about what has changed with the border over the last few years.
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Only one thing has changed: Last November, Democrats won a sweeping victory in the midterm elections, gaining 40 House seats and a clear majority. For Donald Trump, that's the real emergency. Friday's declaration isn't really about a border wall. It's about Trump rejecting the validity of the 2018 elections.

Trump spent the past few years praising dictators and sneering at legitimately elected world leaders. I'm sorry to say that wasn't just trolling or idle bluster. He really is opposed to democracy and reacts to losing a free and fair election by seizing more power for himself and trying to undercut or invalidate the electoral process.
For Donald Trump, there's an emergency: Democrats are winning and he's in trouble
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:10 PM
 
Location: My House
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Salon makes a good point about what has changed with the border over the last few years.


For Donald Trump, there's an emergency: Democrats are winning and he's in trouble
It's interesting that he says he could have waited, but wanted to do this quickly... and that's what he thinks is an emergency.

I'll keep that one in case I get caught speeding.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Moron.

He just got totally checkmated by the Democrats and the complicit GOP "negotiators" who are almost as opposed to border security for different reasons. The idiot signed a bill that restricts building the wall on private lands in the Rio Grande Valley where he first has to invoke imminent domain and get the consent of the Democratic-controlled local governments. He can invoke all the emergency powers he wants, but he literally just agreed to build virtually NOTHING.

Not only that but the bill he signed makes ANY ADULT IN ANY HOUSEHOLD SPONSORING AN UNACCOMPANIED MINOR IMMUNE FROM DEPORTATION. In other words, he just issued an open invitation to traffic minors into the United States to use as deportation shields.

Every single adviser who told him to sign this bill should be fired and he should be primaried in 2020 by someone who knows what the hell they're doing.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:39 PM
 
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I guess time will tell. There are well over 30 national emergency's still in effect. Donald isnt an idiot, and I guarantee this move was well thought out.. Only Libs dont see a rope-a-dope
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