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She freaks out about Muslims in Congress. There ya go.
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Originally Posted by serger
A lot of whining.
Several questions:
1. What is your proposed policy on illegal settlements?
2. What is your proposed policy on occupied territories? (Previously you indicated "winner takes all", lol. So, as I asked before, in your opinion, should Germany be part of Russia, or any of the other former soviet republics? After all the former Soviet Union defeated nazi Germany in WW2, after being attacked and suffering unimaginable losses.
3. What about the humongous amounts of aid given to a developed country courtesy to the US taxpayer?
I'll wait.
P.S. Btw, I do have more questions if you manage to answer the the ones above, lol. And before you try to label me, I have a lot of problems with the other side in this conflict as well.
For all questions this is the answer : You must be a liberal or you must be an anti semite for talking about me/my religion/israel.
1. What is your proposed policy on illegal settlements?
2. What is your proposed policy on occupied territories? (Previously you indicated "winner takes all", lol. So, as I asked before, in your opinion, should Germany be part of Russia, or any of the other former soviet republics? After all the former Soviet Union defeated nazi Germany in WW2, after being attacked and suffering unimaginable losses.
Is Israel supposed to wait till the end of time, or the next Intifada for negotiations to start? The Arab leadership will never negotiate unless forced by changing realities on the ground. The Russians sure protected themselves by rearranging the map and where people lived. As did the Czechs.
1. What is your proposed policy on illegal settlements?
2. What is your proposed policy on occupied territories? (Previously you indicated "winner takes all", lol. So, as I asked before, in your opinion, should Germany be part of Russia, or any of the other former soviet republics? After all the former Soviet Union defeated nazi Germany in WW2, after being attacked and suffering unimaginable losses.
3. What about the humongous amounts of aid given to a developed country courtesy to the US taxpayer?
I'll wait.
P.S. Btw, I do have more questions if you manage to answer the the ones above, lol. And before you try to label me, I have a lot of problems with the other side in this conflict as well.
Why are you asking for my solutions? I'm not an expert in international relations, particularly when one of the players wants to obliterate the other from the face of the Earth. That wasn't the topic. The topic was that antisemitism is driving much of the Israel-hate we see today. Anyone who can't acknowledge this is in denial.
And my "winner takes all" - don't remember that, was that another post from a year ago? - was predicated on the fact that Arab countries attacked Israel, Israel defeated them, and is thus entitled to keep the land they won in a war which was waged against them. (Other countries have scooped up significant amounts of land during war. Where's your condemnation for THEM? Again, double standards.) But to answer your question, I'd be fine with giving half the land back to Jordan so they can form "Palestine," but of course Israel would need to maintain a military presence for protection. In return, the Palestinians, led by the Hamas terrorists, would have to agree to let Israel live in peace.
Finally, since you say you have problems with the other side, I hope you see that the stumbling block is the Hamas-led Palestinians. They have been offered land/statehood and a peace solution before, more than once, but they've always turned it down. That's because they want Israel gone entirely.
I see we're near the 1-year anniversary of when you started this thread. You don't really expect the responses now will be any different than a year ago, do you ? The false extremes, double standards, and nutty analogies never change.
What has changed is that the Arab states are increasingly lining up with Israel. And another year of low oil prices.
(I put the following is an unrelated thread, but it's really worthy if its own thread).....
The anti-Semitism on the left is spreading. And for those anti-Isrseli leftists who keep insisting that being against Israel does not have Antisemitisim at its root, let me ask you the following:
Why are leftists choosing to denigrate Israel, protesting with the anti-Israel BDS movement, when we barely hear a peep against against countries that are truly brutalizing Muslims? What about the Buddhist country of Mynamer (sp?), and what they've done do the 1 million Rochingya Muslims in that country? The Buddhists won't even allow Muslims to be citizen there (while Israel has Muslims in elected leadership positions)! And what about Syria and its treatment? What about the Kurds? I could go on and on.
WHY is the condemnation focused solely on the Jewish country? Why are leftists so willing - and even eager - to condemn Jews, yet there's not a word about other countries doing far worse?
Here's an article showing the tie between the hard left and Nazism:
Yes, those stories are awful. But we could also dig up plenty of stories of awful treatment of Israelis by Palestinians. I imagine those stories would bother you too. True?
I'd be happy if Uncle Sam just gave up his side job as overseer of Israel's Palestinian plantations. Then, as a US citizen I'd no longer be complicit in the subjugation and eventual extermination of five million human beings.
1. What is your proposed policy on illegal settlements?
None of the towns are illegal as they were built on land no one had deeds to. No deeds, the land belongs to Israel. If you think the land should go to the losers of a war, then why are you not proposing for it to go to Jordan as it was the last country it was part of of?
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2. What is your proposed policy on occupied territories? (Previously you indicated "winner takes all", lol. So, as I asked before, in your opinion, should Germany be part of Russia, or any of the other former soviet republics? After all the former Soviet Union defeated nazi Germany in WW2, after being attacked and suffering unimaginable losses.
When is Russia going to return the 1/3rd of Poland they took, annexed and made part of Ukraine and Belarus?
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3. What about the humongous amounts of aid given to a developed country courtesy to the US taxpayer?
Why don't you look at the USAID budget. Guaranteed Israel is not listed there. Israel gets it's funding at the same time as Egypt & Jordan as it's all part of a Treaty the US penned itself into. Israel really doesn't need it especially when 100% must be spent in the US on junk the US Military sector wants to send to Israel that Israel has to repair before using it. Israel is very good at repairing US junk as they still have a fleet of US Vietnam era CH-53 Sea Stallion helicopters (called Yasur) still in use.
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I'll wait.
P.S. Btw, I do have more questions if you manage to answer the the ones above, lol. And before you try to label me, I have a lot of problems with the other side in this conflict as well.
A few months back Trump didn't have issue with Israel's west bank settlements, Netanyahu read the so called peace proposal as an opportunity to invoke Israeli law over the settlements. The US ambassador now indicates not so fast.
Very disjointed policy breaking with prior administration, the US shouldn't be the arbiter of any peace proposal.
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JERUSALEM — A U.S. envoy warned Israel on Sunday not to declare sovereignty over West Bank land without Washington's consent, pushing back against calls for immediate action by ultra-nationalists within Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's coalition.
U.S. President Donald Trump's Middle East peace plan, unveiled on Jan 28, envisages Israel keeping key swathes of the occupied territory where Palestinians seek statehood. But the question of timing has opened up a rare rift between the allies.
Netanyahu initially pledged a speedy "application of Israeli law" - de facto annexation - to Jewish settlement blocs and the Jordan Valley, delighting his religious-rightist base ahead of Israel's March 2 election, where he hopes to win a fifth term.
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