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Additionally, if a business owner kicks someone out for wearing a hat or shirt over a non-profane expressed political opinion, just post about the business, tell everyone about your experience and let the free market decide whether that business needs to exist.
But then again, that's just MY opinion, for what it's worth.
Except that this is a one-way street. If someone wearing attire that was anti-Obama went into certain establishments and was kicked out, the entire MSM and social media would come down hard in support of the person wearing said attire. Charges of "racism" would abound.
Additionally, if a business owner kicks someone out for wearing a hat or shirt over a non-profane expressed political opinion, just post about the business, tell everyone about your experience and let the free market decide whether that business needs to exist.
But then again, that's just MY opinion, for what it's worth.
I agree with this. Many nightclubs will eject people for wearing ball caps, do-rags, sagging jeans or even toboggans.
The 1st amendment does not protect a person on MY property from MY rules just as the 2nd amendment does not protect a person's right to bear arms on MY property. Those amendments exist to protect people from the government infringing upon their right, not a property owner whose property you are on.
I happen to cherish both of those rights so I would encourage a person to say whatever they want while they are carrying concealed or out in the open. All I ask is they keep their firearm holstered unless they absolutely need it for self defense or the defense of others and IF that happens, that they use good aim and know what is behind their target before pulling that trigger.
But then again, that's just MY opinion, for what it's worth.
Nonetheless overreaction to a political statement is not acceptable adult behavior. Normal people dont accept that kind of behavior even from children. To refuse service to someone or physically attack them for their beliefs is taking a big giant step backwards for our society.
And the first amendment gives us the right to speak and express our thoughts and beliefs so that we do not have to fear retribution from the government or others who do not agree with us.
I agree with this. Many nightclubs will eject people for wearing ball caps, do-rags, sagging jeans or even toboggans.
That's a dress code (all ball caps, all do-rags, all sagging jeans) and not targeting someone for their personal affiliations like sports teams, religion or political leanings.
A business has the absolute right to remove a customer who is perceived to be bad for business from its establishment. You've seen the "No shirt, no shoes, no service" sign, right? If a guy at a restaurant who is minding his own business takes out a porn magazine and starts reading it, the establishment will properly ask the guy to remove the material or leave; and rightly so. Even if other patrons have no problem or didn't notice it, the restaurant still has the obligation to do something because the presence of a questionable material is potentially bad for business.
There is also common sense that a person should exercise when out in public. You don't walk into a sports bar in Los Angeles wearing San Francisco Giants attire. You don't wear patches in certain bars if you don't belong to that group. It's likely that nothing will happen if you do it, but why take the chance? And if you do take the chance, you should have been prepared to deal with the consequence. Common sense. It's your responsibility to know what attire is controversial in what settings.
If I wear a "Hillary Clinton Rocks!!" t-shirt to a bar in Middle America. I should know full well there is a chance someone will take offense. I have every right to wear that t-shirt but other people also have their rights to dislike it, and we may clash and exercise our first amendment in unpleasant ways. And if the bar kicks me out because of my wardrobe, I'd understand. It's common sense!
Which takes this thread to certain hats that certain groups like to wear. Now, they have the absolute right to wear whatever they want to wear. But why are they so shocked when their questionable hat is causing unpleasant reactions??? If a person doesn't know said hat is highly controversial in this day and age, that person is either a moron or just woke up from a coma.
And when an establishment kicks that person out, it should not come as any surprise. The hat wearer knows full well this may happen and they took the chance. It's like someone skateboarding off a halfpipe and is shocked when he/she broke an ankle. Hey, you should have known this could happen. When you decided to do it, you took on the responsibility of a potential injury. It's life. Sorry.
And when people took offense to the hat... Errr, you didn't know that could happen?? Seriously?? Just be an adult and leave. That's what I'd do if I was in that situation. But no, they have to film it, post it online, cry about it, and be the snowflakes they always wanted to be.
But I guess for some groups, common sense, responsibility, and not being a snowflake is just too much to ask for.
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Lol, so if I am offended by something, I have the right to object to providing service.... How very Jim Crow of you...
A business has the absolute right to remove a customer who is perceived to be bad for business from its establishment. You've seen the "No shirt, no shoes, no service" sign, right? If a guy at a restaurant who is minding his own business takes out a porn magazine and starts reading it, the establishment will properly ask the guy to remove the material or leave; and rightly so. Even if other patrons have no problem or didn't notice it, the restaurant still has the obligation to do something because the presence of a questionable material is potentially bad for business.
There is also common sense that a person should exercise when out in public. You don't walk into a sports bar in Los Angeles wearing San Francisco Giants attire. You don't wear patches in certain bars if you don't belong to that group. It's likely that nothing will happen if you do it, but why take the chance? And if you do take the chance, you should have been prepared to deal with the consequence. Common sense. It's your responsibility to know what attire is controversial in what settings.
If I wear a "Hillary Clinton Rocks!!" t-shirt to a bar in Middle America. I should know full well there is a chance someone will take offense. I have every right to wear that t-shirt but other people also have their rights to dislike it, and we may clash and exercise our first amendment in unpleasant ways. And if the bar kicks me out because of my wardrobe, I'd understand. It's common sense!
Which takes this thread to certain hats that certain groups like to wear. Now, they have the absolute right to wear whatever they want to wear. But why are they so shocked when their questionable hat is causing unpleasant reactions??? If a person doesn't know said hat is highly controversial in this day and age, that person is either a moron or just woke up from a coma.
And when an establishment kicks that person out, it should not come as any surprise. The hat wearer knows full well this may happen and they took the chance. It's like someone skateboarding off a halfpipe and is shocked when he/she broke an ankle. Hey, you should have known this could happen. When you decided to do it, you took on the responsibility of a potential injury. It's life. Sorry.
And when people took offense to the hat... Errr, you didn't know that could happen?? Seriously?? Just be an adult and leave. That's what I'd do if I was in that situation. But no, they have to film it, post it online, cry about it, and be the snowflakes they always wanted to be.
But I guess for some groups, common sense, responsibility, and not being a snowflake is just too much to ask for.
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You make too much sense. You are right, the people wearing those stupid MAGA hats bought them for a reason and know what they are going to do when they wear them. Maybe some see it as simply supporting their guy, but the vast majority of it are throwing it in your face.
It would be no different than if I wore a T shirt into a restaurant and it said " F Donald Trump !" I would know I am going to create a problem, so I should not be surprised if they ask me to leave or if some other patron confronts me.
This is not like wearing an " I Like Ike !" button , by a longshot.
Additionally, if a business owner kicks someone out for wearing a hat or shirt over a non-profane expressed political opinion, just post about the business, tell everyone about your experience and let the free market decide whether that business needs to exist.
But then again, that's just MY opinion, for what it's worth.
right on the money and the same applies to straight bakers refusing to bake cakes for gays, or blacks refusing to serve someone for being white.
Its not a free society if people with guns and bullhorns can order you to associate with someone you'd rather not.
A business has the absolute right to remove a customer who is perceived to be bad for business from its establishment. You've seen the "No shirt, no shoes, no service" sign, right? If a guy at a restaurant who is minding his own business takes out a porn magazine and starts reading it, the establishment will properly ask the guy to remove the material or leave; and rightly so. Even if other patrons have no problem or didn't notice it, the restaurant still has the obligation to do something because the presence of a questionable material is potentially bad for business.
There is also common sense that a person should exercise when out in public. You don't walk into a sports bar in Los Angeles wearing San Francisco Giants attire. You don't wear patches in certain bars if you don't belong to that group. It's likely that nothing will happen if you do it, but why take the chance? And if you do take the chance, you should have been prepared to deal with the consequence. Common sense. It's your responsibility to know what attire is controversial in what settings.
If I wear a "Hillary Clinton Rocks!!" t-shirt to a bar in Middle America. I should know full well there is a chance someone will take offense. I have every right to wear that t-shirt but other people also have their rights to dislike it, and we may clash and exercise our first amendment in unpleasant ways. And if the bar kicks me out because of my wardrobe, I'd understand. It's common sense!
Which takes this thread to certain hats that certain groups like to wear. Now, they have the absolute right to wear whatever they want to wear. But why are they so shocked when their questionable hat is causing unpleasant reactions??? If a person doesn't know said hat is highly controversial in this day and age, that person is either a moron or just woke up from a coma.
And when an establishment kicks that person out, it should not come as any surprise. The hat wearer knows full well this may happen and they took the chance. It's like someone skateboarding off a halfpipe and is shocked when he/she broke an ankle. Hey, you should have known this could happen. When you decided to do it, you took on the responsibility of a potential injury. It's life. Sorry.
And when people took offense to the hat... Errr, you didn't know that could happen?? Seriously?? Just be an adult and leave. That's what I'd do if I was in that situation. But no, they have to film it, post it online, cry about it, and be the snowflakes they always wanted to be.
But I guess for some groups, common sense, responsibility, and not being a snowflake is just too much to ask for.
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You guys really do have an unhealthy obsession over what people say, do, look like, identify as, and wear.
People who wear provocative clothing or say controversial things in front of others are just trolling the weak-minded for attention. Ignore them and go on with your business. That's the best solution.
So now people can legally get rid of blacks or gays from their establishments. Just pretend to be offended by something they are wearing.
This has actually been at the center of controversy in Chicago where a popular bar with old school arcade games etc. in a nice yuppie area has a dress code that excludes things like "do rags".
Oh and they are ABSOLUTELY enforcing a dress code to keep the place "nice". One of the roughest neighborhoods in Chicago is just a few miles away. They don't want any gang shootings, fights etc. they want hipsters and yuppies.
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