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Old 03-15-2019, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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A business has the absolute right to remove a customer who is perceived to be bad for business from its establishment. You've seen the "No shirt, no shoes, no service" sign, right? If a guy at a restaurant who is minding his own business takes out a porn magazine and starts reading it, the establishment will properly ask the guy to remove the material or leave; and rightly so. Even if other patrons have no problem or didn't notice it, the restaurant still has the obligation to do something because the presence of a questionable material is potentially bad for business.

There is also common sense that a person should exercise when out in public. You don't walk into a sports bar in Los Angeles wearing San Francisco Giants attire. You don't wear patches in certain bars if you don't belong to that group. It's likely that nothing will happen if you do it, but why take the chance? And if you do take the chance, you should have been prepared to deal with the consequence. Common sense. It's your responsibility to know what attire is controversial in what settings.

If I wear a "Hillary Clinton Rocks!!" t-shirt to a bar in Middle America. I should know full well there is a chance someone will take offense. I have every right to wear that t-shirt but other people also have their rights to dislike it, and we may clash and exercise our first amendment in unpleasant ways. And if the bar kicks me out because of my wardrobe, I'd understand. It's common sense!

Which takes this thread to certain hats that certain groups like to wear. Now, they have the absolute right to wear whatever they want to wear. But why are they so shocked when their questionable hat is causing unpleasant reactions??? If a person doesn't know said hat is highly controversial in this day and age, that person is either a moron or just woke up from a coma.

And when an establishment kicks that person out, it should not come as any surprise. The hat wearer knows full well this may happen and they took the chance. It's like someone skateboarding off a halfpipe and is shocked when he/she broke an ankle. Hey, you should have known this could happen. When you decided to do it, you took on the responsibility of a potential injury. It's life. Sorry.


And when people took offense to the hat... Errr, you didn't know that could happen?? Seriously?? Just be an adult and leave. That's what I'd do if I was in that situation. But no, they have to film it, post it online, cry about it, and be the snowflakes they always wanted to be.


But I guess for some groups, common sense, responsibility, and not being a snowflake is just too much to ask for.

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are you through with your babbling? of course a business has a right to not do business with someone. This goes for not baking a wedding cake for a gay couple. Have you forgotten the law suits do to bakeries reactin to the request? that is for starters. DO I think it is right to refuse service? No, and I especially think it is tacky and childish when the customer happens to be someone of the opposite party, but both sides react negatively . Why are you going on an on about one side only?
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:43 PM
 
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Except that this is a one-way street. If someone wearing attire that was anti-Obama went into certain establishments and was kicked out, the entire MSM and social media would come down hard in support of the person wearing said attire. Charges of "racism" would abound.
Exactly!

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Old 03-15-2019, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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It is no different than if I showed up to an expensive 5 star restaurant wearing a t shirt and torn jeans, I would not be allowed to enter. A business has the right to decide the type of clientele they want to serve.

Business owners know that if someone is wearing one of those stupid MAGA hats, there is always the possibility that another patron will confront them and it will not end well. Besides, who wears a cap to a restaurant ? Probably only someone who has a pickup truck with a couple of dogs in the back and whose home used to have wheels on it.
certainly, you've never spoken a word against racism or discrimination.
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:56 PM
 
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Good lord, why are there so many ignorant right-wingers about our laws???????????????

Again, gender and race are PROTECTED categories. No one can be discriminated based on race or gender. They are PROTECTED.

A MAGA hat is not, I repeat not, associated with gender/age/race/religion; so it is NOT protected.

Do you guys get it now??? Do I really have to keep explaining the law to every right-winger on this forum??
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We all know that. Your OP was not about the law and your statement said absolute right. You did not say with the exception of protected groups.
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:58 PM
 
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That's because a "Hillary Clinton Rocks" t-shirt is not a symbol of hate and racism like a MAGA hat.

The difference is like walking into a bar wearing a Frankenstein mask vs wearing a white hood.

They are both just things to cover faces, but one has a very different implication than the other.


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Nor is Make America Great Again a symbol of hate and racism.
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:43 PM
 
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False.

A "Hillary Clinton Rocks" t-shirt is a hate symbol as it represents disenfranchising military personnel, racial hatred against whites, and bigotry against men. It would be the next in a long line of hate-wear sported by Democrats, which started with the white hoods worn by Grand Kleagles of the KKK, almost all of whom were DEMOCRATS.



Suit yourself.


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Old 03-15-2019, 02:53 PM
 
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are you through with your babbling? of course a business has a right to not do business with someone. This goes for not baking a wedding cake for a gay couple. Have you forgotten the law suits do to bakeries reactin to the request? that is for starters. DO I think it is right to refuse service? No, and I especially think it is tacky and childish when the customer happens to be someone of the opposite party, but both sides react negatively . Why are you going on an on about one side only?



Because that one side keeps going on and on about how they are the victims.


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Old 03-15-2019, 02:55 PM
 
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We all know that. Your OP was not about the law and your statement said absolute right. You did not say with the exception of protected groups.

That should go without saying but fine. The business has the absolute rights to remove a customer unless in cases where such an action violates the law.


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Old 03-15-2019, 03:00 PM
 
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Nor is Make America Great Again a symbol of hate and racism.



Yes, it is.


How the MAGA Hat Became a Symbol of Hate


Why Trump's MAGA hats have become a potent symbol of racism


Yes, a MAGA hat is a symbol of hate


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Old 03-15-2019, 03:24 PM
 
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Good one. Joey Salads, funny guy.
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