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Old 04-26-2019, 06:20 AM
 
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You have to realise that some people don't actually care about others outside of their immediate vicinity and like to believe made up fairytales like Trump, a billionaire documented *********, as some sort of blue collar hero.
You're right, I don't care about you or your family in the big picture. That's your job. It's not my problem you need a village to help you do the things you're supposed to be doing. Handle your own issues like an adult.
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Old 04-26-2019, 06:24 AM
 
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The trillions stashed in offshore tax havens
What, you want to steal other peoples money ?
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Old 04-26-2019, 06:31 AM
 
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You do realize that many daycares DO have lesson plans and offer much more than babysitting, right? They don’t just sit around doing nothing all day. Many do have college degrees. I have met people who actually had teaching degrees and certifications who were working in daycares.
Their degree was either useless or they were crappy teachers if they were not earning more in a school district.
Or they chose to work at a lower paying job or live where there or no jobs. Either way, It's a choice.

If I was a licensed Pilot but chose to be a Flight attendant, I should not expect to be paid like a Pilot.
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Old 04-26-2019, 06:49 AM
 
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People still don't understand.

Childcare or school ... they just want SOMEONE ELSE raising your kids.

So instead of having an argument about why parents should be raising their own kids without influence from the government, they make you argue about the BEST WAY to make sure other people take care of the children.

And they are trying to get them from cradle to adulthood and are being really, really successful at it. Pretty soon there will be no difference in daycare/school. Just one big pipeline. No parents needed.
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Old 04-26-2019, 06:54 AM
 
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If people babysitting young children want to be paid the same as those who went to college to become a teacher, and then develop and deliver on lesson plans, give extra attention to those falling behind while simultaneously engaging the "fast leaners," and then sometimes stay up late in the evening grading papers, then they need to go to college to become a teacher (if they are smart enough and motivated enough to do so).

Disclosure: Mom was a teacher. It is an insult to pay babysitters what she earned, especially after the sacrifices she made to go to college (which included working her way through).
A teenaged baby-sitter is a tad different from a state licensed child care provider.

The complete and total lack of knowledge people have regarding small children is astounding.

Perhaps if the people caring for the children in state licensed day care facilities had more than 40 hours training in child development we could save money on prisons.

When my kids were in school, teachers came from the top 10% of their class. Now they come from the bottom 10%.

My daughter is a pre school teacher. She makes $85,000 a year.
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Old 04-26-2019, 07:14 AM
 
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You have to realise that some people don't actually care about others outside of their immediate vicinity and like to believe made up fairytales like Trump, a billionaire documented *********, as some sort of blue collar hero.
I don’t really like Trump, but I don’t think he’s a danger to this country in the way the Democrats are these days. Proposals I’ve heard are stacking the Supreme Court, letting felons vote while they’re still in prison, raising the top tax rate to 70%, ending fossil fuel industries, free college, universal healthcare, low cost daycare but raising wages of daycare workers , reparations, government jobs for everyone, making air travel unnecessary (for us average folks anyway), ending ICE, the list goes on and on. It’s insane.

Trump is under a microscope, but the media proved during the Obama years that they won’t do that to Democrats so I cannot trust them.
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Old 04-26-2019, 07:20 AM
 
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You do realize that many daycares DO have lesson plans and offer much more than babysitting, right? They don’t just sit around doing nothing all day. Many do have college degrees. I have met people who actually had teaching degrees and certifications who were working in daycares.
Sorry, but a 3-year-old doesn't require a "lesson plan" and a college-educated teacher. All they need is to be kept safe, supervised while playing, and given food. Any responsible adult with a high school degree can do it.

And to elaborate on what said earlier, I was an industrious teen who ran a little "day care" camp for 3-4 year-olds (during the summer) when I was 15. I fed the kids food, played toys with them, did simple arts and crafts, and didn't let any of them out of my sight. They loved "camp', and the mothers were thrilled with me.

It's not a job requiring a college degree - or one that deserves pay of $80,000. You liberals need to get a clue.
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Old 04-26-2019, 07:21 AM
 
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A teenaged baby-sitter is a tad different from a state licensed child care provider.

The complete and total lack of knowledge people have regarding small children is astounding.

Perhaps if the people caring for the children in state licensed day care facilities had more than 40 hours training in child development we could save money on prisons.

When my kids were in school, teachers came from the top 10% of their class. Now they come from the bottom 10%.

My daughter is a pre school teacher. She makes $85,000 a year.
So what's all this talk about teachers being underpaid? The teachers around here are earning $80,000 at mid-career, and $100,000 at the peak.
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Old 04-26-2019, 07:26 AM
 
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A teenaged baby-sitter is a tad different from a state licensed child care provider.

The complete and total lack of knowledge people have regarding small children is astounding.

Perhaps if the people caring for the children in state licensed day care facilities had more than 40 hours training in child development we could save money on prisons.

When my kids were in school, teachers came from the top 10% of their class. Now they come from the bottom 10%.

My daughter is a pre school teacher. She makes $85,000 a year.
The best way to save people from prison is to get married and have two parents in the home. Daycare doesn’t have anything to do with it. They are talking about making it easier for women to get into the workforce instead of being forced to stay home to raise their kids. And you think that’s going to make it better for the kids? In what way? I’m not against daycare at all. Both my kids went to daycare. But I don’t think they were better off than they would have been if I could have stayed home with them instead.
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Old 04-26-2019, 07:47 AM
 
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Why wasn’t this necessary 15 years ago?

What’s changed???
Good question. I'd also like to know.
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