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Very clearly, he's not because he said the mother/family gets to decide if the born alive baby gets resuscitated when allowed to lie there and die ...or not. Choosing to deliberately withhold medical care from a born alive infant which results in the death of the infant is infanticide.
Thank G-d you have never had to experience the loss of a newborn who was incompatible with life.
Very clearly, he's not because he said the mother/family gets to decide if the born alive baby gets resuscitated when allowed to lie there and die ...or not. Choosing to deliberately withhold medical care from a born alive infant which results in the death of the infant is infanticide.
No. It's not if the infant is going to die anyway.
That was what was being addressed.
We do this all the time with people who are in hospitals on respirators and in vegetative states.
And, that was what he was addressing. Choosing not to continue care in an infant who is not going to survive. Not allowing one to die that is healthy.
How silly to try to make it about something like that.
Could he have been clearer? I guess he didn't think he needed to spell out that he was not in favor of actual infanticide because anyone with common sense would know this already.
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Northam's office later said he was only referring to a circumstance like a "nonviable pregnancy or in the event of severe fetal abnormalities."
Losing such an infant is a terrible event, but he was not talking about babies who could live with the right treatment, he was talking about babies who have a condition that does not allow them to survive.
Yes, it's exactly what he said. No medical treatment is given to a born alive baby if the mother/family chooses to let the baby die. That's infanticide.
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"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired"
Actually, he did say they would not provide medical care and let the baby die if that's what the mother/family wanted. Potato, Potahto.
What Northam described is infanticide.
Actually he was talking of non-viable fetuses but why let context interfere with Trump's continual lying nonsense, eh?
No. It's not if the infant is going to die anyway.
That was what was being addressed.
So, WHY withhold medical treatment if, supposedly, "the infant is going to die anyway?" Provide the medical treatment until the baby dies despite being administered medical care.
So, WHY withhold medical treatment if, supposedly, "the infant is going to die anyway?" Provide the medical treatment until the baby dies despite being administered medical care.
Why? Because prolonging its life would amount to torture.
So, WHY withhold medical treatment if, supposedly, "the infant is going to die anyway?" Provide the medical treatment until the baby dies despite being administered medical care.
Nonviable pregnancies are a different kind of problem.
From a diagnostic perspective, nonviable does not mean a little chance but no chance of survival. There are a number of common reasons for this. Among them:
Molar pregnancy in which a fertilized egg incapable of survival implants in the uterus
Ectopic pregnancy in which the fertilized egg implants outside of the uterus
Chemical pregnancy in which an egg is fertilized but never implants in the uterus
Anembryonic gestation, also known as a blighted ovum, in which the pregnancy stops growing after the gestational sac forms A pregnancy in which the baby no longer has a heartbeat
A congenital defect which makes survival impossible
Being born too prematurely to be able to survive
In terms of premature birth, most hospitals in the United States look at viability from the perspective of when a preemie has at least some chance of surviving. Technically speaking, the line is drawn roughly around the 24th week of gestation.
A nonviable pregnancy is a pregnancy without a chance of a live infant being born or without the fetus having a chance to survive if born alive. Chromosomal abnormalities are the most common causes of miscarriage. These abnormalities result in a non-viable embryo and ultimately a pregnancy loss
So, WHY withhold medical treatment if, supposedly, "the infant is going to die anyway?" Provide the medical treatment until the baby dies despite being administered medical care.
They are given hospice style treatment as the parents are given bereavement support. As it should be.
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As a NICU nurse, I served on the "Bereavement Team." We were a special team of Nurses…
We placed the babies skin to skin with mom and placed a blanket over them both. We lowered the lights and quieted the room. We had as much or as little family and the parents wanted in the room. We sang songs, we prayed, we hugged, we swayed... and we all cried.
We put a lock of hair into a ribbon. We measured the babies length and marked it on a tape measure. We made special tiny white gowns and hats for our angels. We created a memory box for these families who were losing their child that day
So yes, there are those in hospitals who are around infants who pass: they are the Bereavement Teams & they provide the equivalent of neonatal hospice to families who are living through absolute Hell.
Babies and children die, it’s a sad part of life. But no one, absolutely NO ONE ever, in any hospital, nor any mother who has just given birth, is conspiring with a doctor on whether or not to commit infanticide. This is perhaps one of the sickest accusations levied by this deranged dictator yet. Don’t believe a word he says about anything important.
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