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So, WHY withhold medical treatment if, supposedly, "the infant is going to die anyway?" Provide the medical treatment until the baby dies despite being administered medical care.
What remarkable cruelties you people think up.
A newborn with a severe birth effect may live for a few minutes, perhaps a few hours - or, if every drastic measure is applied, a few days. Quite often in pain. Quite often with no possible way to understand anything, except the pain. (We can tell, because newborns respond to pain.) These are the realities of the situation.
And you and yours have the unbelievable gall to tell parents that they're murderers for not choosing to drag out the inevitable. To make their newborn suffer a few days more, so that your moral convictions can be upheld. The parody of a human being you've elected to high office plays this sort of tragedy to score points with his followers.
As it is, I'll let you in on something: You and yours are not invited to sit in on that decision, you have no right to judge those who have to make that sort of decision, and it's grim consolation that those who suffer through it are too devastated to give two hoots about yours and Trumps' opinion of them.
There is no cheaper facsimile of morality than the one that argues that others should suffer so that you can feel moral, but - it's Trump & his evangelical crowd. So incredibly eager to start picking up stones when someone drags the accused sinner in front of them.
"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired"
Actually, he did say they would not provide medical care and let the baby die if that's what the mother/family wanted. Potato, Potahto.
What Northam described is infanticide.
Who will pay for the millions in healthcare to keep those babies, born with congenital abnormalities that are incompatible with life, from dying (e.g. ventilator support, years in intensive care, industrial strength medications, tube feedings, emergency surgeries to keep from dying, etc....?)
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The bill he referred to would mandate that health professionals do all they could to keep a baby alive if it was "born alive" and would penalize anyone who let a baby die.
Northam told Washington radio station WTOP in January: "[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that's nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen."
"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, said.
Are you pro-life extremists in support of keeping babies with terminal conditions from dying? If so, how will those medical bills be paid? Would simply prolonging the dying process in babies, where there is no hope of living very long, what you hope to accomplish with these legislative bills? That will be the result. Doctors are not going to risk their license and face criminal charges. Babies born extremely pre-mature or with congenital abnormalities incompatible with life, will end up being given all advanced medical support measures available while the baby slowly dies.
How about politicians leave medical decisions, that politicians have no knowledge about, to the physicians.
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Lindsey Johnson's tiny daughter was born 17 weeks premature. She's filled with grief — and weighed by hospital bills.
Her premature baby lived for two days. She'll be paying bills for years.
He stood on a stage in Minnesota this weekend and claimed that doctors were butchering newborn babies who were born alive, and wrapped in swaddling clothes. Like, this was some standard practice.
He has twisted commentary on compassionate care for parents of infants born with conditions that are incompatible with life to mean that doctors and parents are committing infanticide instead of simply deciding to terminate care in an infant who is not going to live no matter what sort of care is offered.
Come on. He's either crazy, a liar, or both.
And, that is not the MSM talking. It's right from his own mouth, on video.
trump will have blood on his hands if some crazy with a gun, who believes trump's lies about this, shoots up medical personal in some hospital or maternity ward!
Who will pay for the millions in healthcare to keep those babies, born with congenital abnormalities that are incompatible with life, from dying (e.g. ventilator support, years in intensive care, industrial strength medications, tube feedings, emergency surgeries to keep from dying, etc....?)
Are you pro-life extremists in support of keeping babies with terminal conditions from dying? If so, how will those medical bills be paid? Would simply prolonging the dying process in babies, where there is no hope of living very long, what you hope to accomplish with these legislative bills? That will be the result. Doctors are not going to risk their license and face criminal charges. Babies born extremely pre-mature or with congenital abnormalities incompatible with life, will end up being given all advanced medical support measures available while the baby slowly dies.
How about politicians leave medical decisions, that politicians have no knowledge about, to the physicians.
It is the same idiocy that is prevalent in those who call themselves "pro-life" but will support the party that would wipe out all affordable healthcare for the folks that could not otherwise afford healthcare for themselves and their children. How can they not see how transparently disingenuous this is to everyone else?
Yes, it's exactly what he said. No medical treatment is given to a born alive baby if the mother/family chooses to let the baby die. That's infanticide.
Would a "Do Not Resuscitate" order for a 90 year old person with terminal cancer also be murder if that patient is not kept alive in an ICU on a ventilator, conscious or not?
Very clearly, he's not because he said the mother/family gets to decide if the born alive baby gets resuscitated when allowed to lie there and die ...or not. Choosing to deliberately withhold medical care from a born alive infant which results in the death of the infant is infanticide.
Yes. When the baby has a condition that is not compatible with life, the parents can choose not to take extraordinary measures.
But you will seemingly choose to remain ignorant. I hope it never happens to someone you care about. Because it’s awful. Adding to this pain by being an ignorant ape is beyond disgusting but that is your choice.
No one is letting a healthy full term baby die. No one. Never. Ever. Not legally. That’s your cruel propaganda
So, WHY withhold medical treatment if, supposedly, "the infant is going to die anyway?" Provide the medical treatment until the baby dies despite being administered medical care.
Most parents would like to hold and hug their baby instead of having their baby's last hours full of painful IV lines placed, a tube shoved down the baby's airway, and the baby spending the little time they have alone in an incubator.
A newborn with a severe birth effect may live for a few minutes, perhaps a few hours - or, if every drastic measure is applied, a few days. Quite often in pain. Quite often with no possible way to understand anything, except the pain. (We can tell, because newborns respond to pain.) These are the realities of the situation.
And you and yours have the unbelievable gall to tell parents that they're murderers for not choosing to drag out the inevitable. To make their newborn suffer a few days more, so that your moral convictions can be upheld. The parody of a human being you've elected to high office plays this sort of tragedy to score points with his followers.
As it is, I'll let you in on something: You and yours are not invited to sit in on that decision, you have no right to judge those who have to make that sort of decision, and it's grim consolation that those who suffer through it are too devastated to give two hoots about yours and Trumps' opinion of them.
There is no cheaper facsimile of morality than the one that argues that others should suffer so that you can feel moral, but - it's Trump & his evangelical crowd. So incredibly eager to start picking up stones when someone drags the accused sinner in front of them.
He's playing to the base. That's fine -- it will whoop up HIS crowds BUT...if he continues to say outlandish -- unfounded things like this, those swing voters, those independents will start giving him that side eye and start to question his sanity.
Playing the abortion card will only work for folks who are voting for him anyways. It will not get more votes or even keep some of the votes that he got last time that were independent or swing voters.
This absurd comment from trump, trumps palin's "death panels" comment. Doesn't the GOP have anything going for them other than to scare voters with lies?
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