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Old 04-30-2019, 01:54 PM
 
Location: STL area
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Are you all getting it, yet? The left wants born alive babies to die but will spare no cost in providing expensive medical interventions to let everyone else with costly nonviable (without medical intervention) conditions to live.
Do you purposefully not get it or is the difference between treatable and terminal really that far over your head? Bless your heart.
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Old 04-30-2019, 01:59 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Do you purposefully not get it or is the difference between treatable and terminal really that far over your head? Bless your heart.
A lot of terminal illnesses are treatable. It just prolongs the final outcome. Cancer, heart, and lung disease are just 3 of them. Why insist that everyone but born alive babies be treated for their life-compromising health issues?
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Old 04-30-2019, 02:06 PM
 
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Trump knows no bounds but did anyone actually fall for this crazy talk?
Apparently. There have been tons of people parroting the same kind of rot from media headlines.
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Old 04-30-2019, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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"So, in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen," he added. "The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother."

The provided link even says the Governor's office refused to elaborate on what his previous statement meant

"We asked Yheshkel if the governor meant that a discussion would take place between physicians and parents on whether extraordinary means should be taken to keep the baby alive. She declined to answer, saying, "I feel we’ve spelled that out, and I don’t know that I want to go beyond that."

Perhaps if the governor is so worried about people putting words in his mouth he should stop being a coward and stand behind his statement and clarify exactly what he meant.
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Old 04-30-2019, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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A lot of terminal illnesses are treatable. It just prolongs the final outcome. Cancer, heart, and lung disease are just 3 of them. Why insist that everyone but born alive babies be treated for their life-compromising health issues?

Cancer (many of which are curable) is not the equivalent of missing a brain or being born with your spine on the outside of your body. Many of these conditions are excruciating.
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Old 04-30-2019, 02:51 PM
 
Location: New York
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Originally Posted by Tominftl
We all know by now that anyone who believes a word Trump says is as bad as he is. Trump is the Liar in Charge. Count the lies. How many now?

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I don't know. As many as the Clintons?

Clinton's don't lie! They tell creative stories designed to preserve the interest of the people!












The people they pay off.






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Cancer (many of which are curable) is not the equivalent of missing a brain or being born with your spine on the outside of your body. Many of these conditions are excruciating.
This whole thing is BS! Only 2% of abortions have to do with genetic conditions, incest, rape, saving the mothers life.


It's simply used to excuse the other 98% where a healthy baby would otherwise be born. On-demand anytime.
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Old 04-30-2019, 02:53 PM
 
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Trump knows no bounds but did anyone actually fall for this crazy talk?
I have listened to the good governors comments personally. Trumps comments are a reasonable representation of what that dirtbag said. d


it is post delivery abortion. ie execution.
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Old 04-30-2019, 03:02 PM
 
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A lot of terminal illnesses are treatable. It just prolongs the final outcome. Cancer, heart, and lung disease are just 3 of them. Why insist that everyone but born alive babies be treated for their life-compromising health issues?
Because there is a difference between issues that are FIXABLE, life COMPROMISING and life ENDING. You should research DNR's, who uses then and why. For a minor, the parents are the MPOA and get to make the decision. It is a heartbreaking one to make and is the price of the decision NOT to have a late term abortion and have the baby be born alive instead.


Since you clearly have NO IDEA what you are speaking of and are fortunate enough not to have any direct experience with this, back up, sit down and LISTEN for a change. You may actually learn something.
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Old 04-30-2019, 03:27 PM
 
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A lot of terminal illnesses are treatable. It just prolongs the final outcome.
Oh, how very deep.

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Why insist that everyone but born alive babies be treated for their life-compromising health issues?
Classical strawman argument, because nobody insists on that. Do you know what palliative care is? Are you aware of the function of a hospice? Have you ever heard of advance directives or DNR orders?

Literally nobody insists on full-on heroic measures to prolong life in any and all cases, because it would be a cruel, heartless thing to do. And decent human beings do not hurl rocks at those who have had to make that sort of decision.
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Old 04-30-2019, 03:31 PM
 
Location: STL area
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A lot of terminal illnesses are treatable. It just prolongs the final outcome. Cancer, heart, and lung disease are just 3 of them. Why insist that everyone but born alive babies be treated for their life-compromising health issues?
So, over your head then. Carry on.
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