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Old 04-29-2019, 02:47 PM
 
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Trump knows no bounds but did anyone actually fall for this crazy talk?
I'm sure many have and will continue to do so.
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Old 04-29-2019, 02:51 PM
 
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He's talking about babies who are born and will die because they have conditions that are incompatible with life.
Very clearly, he's not because he said the mother/family gets to decide if the born alive baby gets resuscitated when allowed to lie there and die ...or not. Choosing to deliberately withhold medical care from a born alive infant which results in the death of the infant is infanticide.
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Old 04-29-2019, 02:52 PM
 
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"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired"

Actually, he did say they would not provide medical care and let the baby die if that's what the mother/family wanted. Potato, Potahto.

What Northam described is infanticide.
But that is NOT what happens.

The truth from an NICU nurse who is on a bereavement team.

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As a NICU nurse, I served on the “Bereavement Team.” We were a special team of Nurses tough enough to help new parents go through the worst day of their lives. Parents of babies who had fought so hard for their tiny little lives and weren’t going to make it. And parents of babies who, after they were born, and wouldn’t have their moms body keeping them alive, would die rather quickly. As these small bodies were failing, it was our job to be there with the parents at every step, give them support, and do our best to make some Memories of their precious babies that could help easy their impending and overwhelming grief. When heroic measures failed or a baby without a brain or working lungs or heart was born, we knew the end was near, and we encouraged the parents to be present in these finals moments. We placed the babies skin to skin with mom and placed a blanket over them both. We lowered the lights and quieted the room. We had as much or as little family and the parents wanted in the room. We sang songs, we prayed, we hugged, we swayed... and we all cried. I cried until my throat burned for this family who has just had to endure the unthinkable. We were in the moment with those families. We took pictures, even for the ones who were too traumatized to think they’d ever want to see them, just in case they did. We made footprints. We put a lock of hair into a ribbon. We measured the babies length and marked it on a tape measure. We made special tiny white gowns and hats for our angels. We created a memory box for these families who were losing their child that day. So yes, there are those in hospitals who are around infants who pass: they are the Bereavement Teams & they provide the equivalent of neonatal hospice to families who are living through absolute Hell. Babies and children die, it’s a sad part of life. But no one, absolutely NO ONE ever, in any hospital, nor any mother who has just given birth, is conspiring with a doctor on whether or not to commit infanticide.
Neither Trump nor the governor knows anything about this in reality.
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Old 04-29-2019, 02:53 PM
 
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But that is NOT what happens.

The truth from an NICU nurse who is on a bereavement team.



Neither Trump nor the governor knows anything about this in reality.
It won't matter. If Trump says it, they believe, true or not.
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Old 04-29-2019, 02:55 PM
 
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I'm sure many have and will continue to do so.
We have an inbreeding problem in this country because I can think of no other reason for so much intellectual deprivation.
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Old 04-29-2019, 02:56 PM
 
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Governor Blackface?
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Old 04-29-2019, 03:03 PM
 
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We have an inbreeding problem in this country because I can think of no other reason for so much intellectual deprivation.
The allergy to intelligence is astounding. But I guess some people take their cues from those at the top.
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Old 04-29-2019, 03:08 PM
 
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But that is NOT what happens.
Northam, an MD, says that's exactly what happens.
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Old 04-29-2019, 03:53 PM
 
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Let's see, Brought to Us by the same people who brought us Russiagate.

  • MSN to NPCs -> "Trump is Crazy"
  • NPCs -> "Trump is Crazy", "Orange Man Bad"
Not one word from you on what Trump actually said in context. Just parroting opinion from the leftist rag.
He stood on a stage in Minnesota this weekend and claimed that doctors were butchering newborn babies who were born alive, and wrapped in swaddling clothes. Like, this was some standard practice.

He has twisted commentary on compassionate care for parents of infants born with conditions that are incompatible with life to mean that doctors and parents are committing infanticide instead of simply deciding to terminate care in an infant who is not going to live no matter what sort of care is offered.

Come on. He's either crazy, a liar, or both.

And, that is not the MSM talking. It's right from his own mouth, on video.
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Old 04-29-2019, 03:55 PM
 
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Northam, an MD, says that's exactly what happens.
No. That is not what he said. Sure, you can twist it to mean that, but it would be mendacious at best.
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