Could Abortion Actually Become Illegal in America Again? (drug, lawyer, Canada)

[corpgypsy]

Originally Posted by Pilot1

Oooh!!! Let's use the Alabama abortion law to scare everyone into voting Democrat from now on, especially in 2020! Hypocrites. Don't worry, Roe v Wade will stand, and you can still murder your babies for convenience, and call it a medical procedure.

What's wrong? Upset that Americans see the true meaning and definition of MAGA in all its unconstitutional, autocratic, oppressive and Neanderthal color?

[TheEmissary]

I guess Ice Picks & Knitting Needles R Us will be having a grand opening in Montgomery in a few months.

[Bureaucat]

Originally Posted by TheEmissary

I guess Ice Picks & Knitting Needles R Us will be having a grand opening in Montgomery in a few months.

There might be an uptick in wire coat hanger demand.

[TheEmissary]

Originally Posted by Bureaucat

There might be an uptick in wire coat hanger demand.

Yeah, and those "Mommie Dearest" anti-abortionists will be screaming "No wired coat hangers!!!!"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOILKHmZBwc

[TheEmissary]

...or some of the more enterprising "Meth Heads" could supplement their addiction money by synthesizing RU486 (Mifepristone) in a 2-liter Coke bottle. A win-win for all!

[bawac34618]

Originally Posted by Bobdreamz

Well I can assure you that this Alabama law will drive many women to the polls to protect their rights.

As for hypocrites that would be Republicans...you know the party of personal freedom & liberty that wants to tell women what they can or can not do with their bodies !

Hypocrisy at its finest !

Don't forget, they also want to throw me in jail if I want to smoke a joint instead of drinking a beer.

[TheEmissary]

Originally Posted by remsleep

Because anti-choicers don't care about the fetus. They are really concerned with reasserting their control over women's reproductive choices.

The Alabama legislature is "heavy" into 'mansplaining!

[rodentraiser]

Originally Posted by Williepaws

And how is the state going to know if a woman went out of state or country on a vacation, to visit relatives, to have medical treatment or have an abortion?

One woman just posted on Reddit that along with all the other tests her doctor gave her was a pregnancy test. She didn't authorize it and until the specialist she was talking to mentioned it, she didn't even know the test had been done.

"A few weeks ago I went to my primary doctor for a checkup and referral to a specialist. Among other things, he did a whole battery of blood and urine tests. I’m on a medication that may cause birth defects so of course he asked if I was pregnant or could become so. As always, I replied that I was not intending to become pregnant, nor was I even sexually active at the moment (and hadn’t been in a while). He drops the subject, doesn’t bring it up again.

So a couple weeks later I go to the specialist. She and my primary doctor are in the same medical network, so she had computer access to my records. She’s scrolling through my records and comments how thorough my doctor was. She kind of laughs and says “Oh wow, he even did a pregnancy test!”.

Wait, what? I was just...taken aback. I didn’t say anything but I just felt violated somehow. I couldn’t put my finger on it. It just felt wrong. Yes, I’m taking the medication. Yes, the doctor is probably afraid of a lawsuit if anything were to happen. Yes. But I said I was not sexually active. And he never disclosed that he was doing the test. And I never would have known that he had if the specialist hadn’t mentioned it."

Originally Posted by mikeyyc

I think you'd be hard pressed to find any state that there was a majority, never mind an overwhelming majority, that favored banning abortion outright.

You mean besides Georgia, Alabama, North and South Dakota, Ohio, Kentucky, etc.?

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

right...so it is a bother to them and they are offended... so lets just kill another human.....

thoroughly modern Millie cant be bothered with a baby, its offensive to her

Dude, what's your problem? I am a woman and if I were pregnant, I'd get an abortion in a nanosecond. First off, I don't want the unconvenience of risking my life by the following list of things that could happen if I was pregnant or gave birth:

Ectopic pregnancy

Spontaneous abortion

Chorioamnionitis (infection in the fluid, makes labour longer)

Shoulder dystocia (babys shoulder gets stuck in your vag, you tear, bleed or your uterus ruptures.)

Breech delivery

Uterine rupture (disability or death for mother)

Hysterectomy after delivery

Postpartum infection

Postpartum depression

Septic pelvic thrombosis (infection)

Hypertension (high blood pressure)

Preeclampsia (caused by the above. Includes impaired liver function, kidney dysfunction, fluid in the lungs and seizures.)

Eclampsia (name for the above seizures)

Placental abruption (bleeding and dangerously low blood pressure)

Amniotic fluid embolism (amniotic fluid in blood, causes heart and lung issues and massive bleeding)

Delayed delivery

Incontinence

Premature rupture of membranes (for her, bacterial infection) Incompetent cervix (they operate if needs be)

Macrosomia (big baby 8 to 13 oz)

Seizures

Gestational trophoblastic disease

Gestational diabetes

Hyperemesis gravidarum (level 10 morning sickness all the way through)

Pelvic girdle pain (limits movement severely)

HELLP syndrome (possible kidney failure)

Acute fatty liver of pregnancy (might die)

Deep vein thrombosis (could lose a limb or die - second most common cause of pregnancy death in the USA)

Pregnancy-induced hypercoagulability (blood clots, might die)

Mastitis

Peripartum cardiomyopathy (heart problems, might die)

Postpartum bleeding (losing up to 1000 ml of blood)

Perineal tear (vagina meet anus, now you are one!)
Thyroid disease in pregnancy

Pruritic urticarial papules and plaques of pregnancy (hives)

Intrahepatic cholestasis of pregnancy (itchy)

Gestational pemphigoid (like herpes)

Prurigo gestationis (gross lumpy skin)

Obstetric fistula (hole in the birth canal. Incontinence)

Uterine incarceration (constipation, back pain)

Gestational trophoblastic disease (more tumors)

Antiphospholipid antibody syndrome (blood clots)

Postpartum thyroiditis (underactive thyroid)

Hyperpigmentation (skin goes weird)

Hair growth changes/ falls out

Pruritic urticarial papaules of pregnancy

Abnormality of maternal pelvic organs

Postpartum acute renal failure

Postpartum nephritis

Hemorrhoids

Obstetric embolism (lockjaw and spasms)

Obstetrical tetanus

Unicornuate uterus

Maternal death

All the swelling

Hip dysplasia

Teeth can fall out

Malnutrition

Mood swings

Uterine prolapse

As the US is already near the bottom of the list when it comes to maternal healthcare and live births, I think I'd be forgiven for wanting to skip the part about giving birth. Gee, excuuuuse me for not wanting to risk my life because of your outdated beliefs. Imagine that!

Secondly, I hear all this talk about how 50 million babies have been aborted, yet I don't hear any talk about all the kids we have in foster care. We have over 400,000 kids in foster care that we can't take care of and you want to add another 50 million to that number? You must be insane.

But you know, I think this woman has the right idea. Jenny Block posted this and I think if men are sincerely against abortion, this would be their go-to plan:

"If you are a man who is anti-abortion, DO NOT HAVE SEX WITH WOMEN. That is a 100% effective method of birth control. BUT IT'S ON YOU.

As far as I'm concerned, if you have sex with a woman you are consenting to her having an abortion if you get her pregnant and she does not want to continue the pregnancy.

There. Done."

[theoldnorthstate]

Originally Posted by thrillobyte

I think it IS possible a 5-4 vote could overturn Roe v Wade. How would the women in this country react to such a reality--a return to back-alley butchers?

No, I do not think the Supreme Court will overturn Roe v Wade. I can't imagine a sitting judge wanting to touch that. Perhaps individual cases if they make it to the SC might add restrictions, possibly.

It is possible some states may pass legislation concerning abortion. May or may not make it illegal but may more likely address restrictions or put requirements on facilities/doctors/etc.

Crystal ball broken but I doubt it is a big issue for most. and that handful on both sides will probably be put on ignore.

[rodentraiser]

Let's not forget that there is currently an 11 year old in Ohio who was assaulted and raped and is now pregnant. According to the state, she may well have to carry that child to term and have it.

In addition to that, if you are a woman who is raped and ends up pregnant because of that rape, and if you live in a state where your rapist can sue to have custody and visitation rights, you will have to continue to interact with your rapist for as long as he chooses.

And let's not also forget that the penalties in Georgia and Alabama are going to be more severe for a woman having an abortion than they are for the person who assaults, rapes, and impregnates that woman or child. And don't forget these states actually investigate miscarriages as well, so if you, a woman, have a natural miscarriage or a stillbirth, you may find yourself facing jail time like the following women:
"Melissa Ann Rowland of Utah was arrested and charged with murder after one of her twins was stillborn. The reason? She had refused a C-section.

Purvi Patel of Indiana was sentenced to 20 years in prison for feticide. She said she had a miscarriage, and no traces of any abortifacient were found in her blood work.

Angela Carder was 27 years old, 26 weeks pregnant, and had cancer. She was forced to undergo a C-section in Washington, D.C. to try to save the baby despite the risk to her health. They both died.

Michelle Lee - a waiting list for a heart transplant  - was denied an abortion by a Louisiana hospital despite the pregnancy endangering her life. She had to be transported to Texas by ambulance to end the pregnancy.


Rennie Gibbs of Mississippi was 16 years old when she delivered a stillborn baby — she was indicted on charges of “depraved-heart murder” after accusations that she used drugs.


A woman in Louisiana was jailed on charges of second-degree murder after she went to the hospital for unexplained vaginal bleeding. It was over a year before medical records showed that she had a miscarriage.

Christine Taylor of Iowa was charged with attempted feticide after she fell down the stairs at home.


Bei Bei SHuai lost her pregnancy after she tried to kill herself — within a half hour an Indiana homicide detective was questioning her. She was arrested for murder."

https://medium.com/s/jessica-valenti...l-86ab8951cdcc


Edited to add: if you think a fetus is a person, then you are now keeping thousands of fetuses under unauthorized incarceration. By keeping their mothers locked up, you are denying these mothers the ability to eat the correct foods for the optimal nutrition of a fetus. So you better be prepared for a lawsuit to allow these pregnant women in jails and prisons to be set free. Just a heads up.